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Re: SS overflow, change the law


They deduct for the disability that they caused out of your pension??
That's outrageous!

On 10/6/06, Rich Apking <red4@omni-tech.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Cathy and all,  I retired from the military in 1999.  Since the only
> survivor I had was my daughter Lauren, (at that time age 14) I talked it
> over with her, and she thought that it would be better if we opted out of
> SBP.  As time has gone by, I truly feel that is the best option.  Just a
> little note on how the govt treats retired military.  I was diagnosed with
> hearing loss due to my job in the military, which made the loss "service
> connected".  I was awarded a 10 percent disability, the cost of which is
> deducted from my pension.  How many retired senators or representatives
> can
> identify with this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> Behalf Of Cathy Carpenter
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] SS overflow, change the law
>
>
> When I retired from the military in 1997, I was given a choice to
> participate in SBP or not. My spouse, of course had to be involved in
> the decision and sign papers to that effect. Is it now mandatory?
> Since we were both military, I had to do the same when he retired. We
> both opted out. Sounds like the correct choice!
>
> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>
> On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:06 AM, TeichFlora@aol.com wrote:
>
> > A person  cannot collect military and government  pensions.  They
> > take away
> > one or the other.  My dad retired from the  military as a
> > commissioned officer
> > with over 20 years, then went to work for the  Govt. and retired
> > with a high
> > GS rating, with more than 20 years again.  He  was not able to
> > collect both. It
> > hasn't been easy on mom since his death  with collecting Social
> > Security.
> > However, if a military retiree goes  to work for a civilian company
> > or State
> > govt. that is different, they can  collect both.  They paid their
> > time and
> > retired though....I do not see why  they should not be able to.
> >
> >  Plus the Govt. has a racket going on with SBP (Survivor Benefit
> > Plan)....many of those in the military paid in for years, even
> > after retirement,  it is
> > automatically taken out from their retirement.......only to find
> > that they  are
> > now cutting the SBP, and you cannot get both....SBP and SS.  Not
> > only  that,
> > but the SBP was less than what they paid in a month.   If  you opt
> > out, you do
> > not get your money back.  At the time, the military had  no choice
> > to join
> > this program.  Dh is in the same boat now.
> > Noreen
> > zone 9
> > Texas Gulf Coast
>
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