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Re: replacement tree (TX)

That's great, Pam. I'm tickled you found a replacement quickly. I really admire your following through with planting it when you bought it. I have lots of plants in pots -- all the time.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] replacement tree (TX)

Ended up w/ a BIG Yaupon holly tree.  Native - lots of berries for the
birdies.  It's as tall as I am so bigger than the mahonia I want to shade
next summer.  Not cheap and barely got it in the car.  But it will work.
You ought to try digging a hole in clay in the 20th month of drought.   It
took four hours.  I have  blackhaw which is gorgeous, but not a rusty
blackhaw.  Tossed a couple of handfuls of worm castings in the hole.  It
should thrive.  Took an hour and a half to dig out all the dead roots.  My
poor back.

On 10/8/06, TeichFlora@aol.com <TeichFlora@aol.com> wrote:

Pam, I have pretty much everyone of the trees I mentioned to you, except
Eve's Necklace and the Madrone in my yard ....so if it can take my clay
and flooding rains, I'm sure it can take yours too. I can't grow Rosemary
lavenders, even in pots.....so the trees are a bit more forgiving than
plants. The only one that I have in somewhat of a raised bed, is the
Willow.....and only then because I have it in an area where water runs
off if
the back yard floods, so didn't want it to be in standing water.

I don't know if the Wax Myrtle would grow well for you. It does
need quite
a bit of water. It doesn't mind overwatering at all, but if it
goes through
periods of drought without supplimental watering it shows it right
away.....it is not as full and lush with foliage. It is evergreen,
and recovers with
new growth though once it rains again. The one thing I dislike very much
about this tree is that it suckers something awful. It is a constant
chore to
have to cut off the suckers that literally come up all along the root
In it's native habitat it forms thickets. The best examples I've seen of
this in use in a landscape is in a confined space, with little area, like
to a walkway in a thin strip. This gives it little room to sucker and it
adapts well to pruning. It is naturally shrubby, but can be pruned to
form a
hedge or a small tree. The berries are much sought after by birds, and
you can
boil them to make bayberry oils.

I thought you had this Viburnum??? The Rusty Blackhaw
Viburnum definitely
grows in your area and I love the blooms on the Viburnum. They are
recommended for Wildscapes. I guess I've never really been a big admirer
(other than the blooms in spring) because they are such a slow grower and
me of a Ligustrum or such, with the glossy green foliage. The Rusty
does have great fall color though. So....I think it depends on what you
and what you already have, it's your landscape, Pam, whatever makes you
happy is what you should go with. Whatever makes you happy, makes us

zone 9
Texas Gulf Coast

In a message dated 10/8/2006 11:02:30 AM Central Standard Time,
gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:

Noreen, what say you about the Rusty Blackhaw Viburnum (V. rufidulum)?
It's not as fussy about soil being well drained as some of those others
mentioned and both Sophoras have poisonous seeds, a no-no in the bird
sanctuary. Or wax myrtle which doesn't mind clay in the least? And
both handle too much or too little water conditions, both of which can
here, though too little is more common. Desert anything will croak when
do get rain, which is why most of my salvias & lavenders are in chimney
liners and the rosemary shrubs are planted on mounds around
the property.

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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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