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RE: Chelone glabra Black Ace
gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: RE: Chelone glabra Black Ace
  • From: "Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95 CS/SCOSI" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:57:30 -0700

They make some pretty heavy-duty barriers to hold back bamboo runners,
maybe that's an option.

Cyndi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Kitty
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:29 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Chelone glabra Black Ace

Nope, soil drained very quickly & invaded by Maple roots, Chelone always

struggling.  I'm going to yank everything from that bed and redo it
adding 
lots of humus.  I'd like to find some sort of barrier to keep out the
maple 
roots.  How tiny would hardware cloth need to be to keep them out?

Or ... perhaps a lining of landscape fabric?  Or would that prevent 
drainage?  If so I could stick wet lovers in the bed - Juncus, Chelone,
etc.

Hmmm..... any thoughts?

David has bloomed nonstop for me too, with Katherine at his side.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patricia Dickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Chelone glabra Black Ace


> Sounds like good moist soil! I have layered shrubs, vines and such but
> can't think of one like yours!
> We are driving back from Colorado! Spent almost a week!! I never can
> believe how FABULOUS the flowers are there in July and August! I took
> some wonderful pictures of great combinations for great color!
> It makes me want to give up at home though with the heat,( record #
> days over 100), dry wind, and grasshopper invasion!  I think I should
> plant more shrubs and trees to get color! Spend more time on early
> spring or fall for flowers! The one plant that always comes through
> for me in hot dry summer is 'David' or 'Mt Fuji' white phlox! Blooms
> and reblooms with little care!
> Great to hear of your good fortune Kitty!
>
> sent from my i-phone
>  Patricia Dickson
>
> On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:42 PM, "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have had this tall white turtlhead for about 4-5 yrs.  Because of
>> chipmunk activity and the fact that the soil was too well draining
>> for it to begin with, the plant hasn't done as well the past couple
>> of years.  I only now got around to digging it up, even though I
>> suspect spring would be a much better time to divide it.
>>
>> While digging the clump I noticed one stem had bent halfway up so
>> it's head was in the soil.  What surprised me was that its head -
>> you know, where the flowers are supposed to be - had developed roots
>> and was starting a new plant.  I have layered shrubs this way and
>> I've had groundcovers like Chrysogonum and Lamium do this, but I
>> don't think I've ever seen a tall growing, clump forming perennial
>> root from the top like this.
>>
>> Has anyone ever had this happen?  Is it normal?  Any input would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Kitty
>> neIN, Zone 5
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