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Re: Zumbarizing

  • Subject: Re: Zumbarizing
  • From: "Bill Meyer" njhosta@hotmail.com
  • Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 09:18:58 -0400

Hi Kirsten,
        Probably the best time to do any of the tricks with buds is just as
the plants are going dormant for the winter. This seems to be the most
successful timing. You could wait until the leaves begin to yellow, but it's
OK to just do it a couple weeks before that. You want to do it when
everything is cooling down enough that they won't sprout into growth
immediately and be destroyed by frost. Benlate is a fungicide that is pretty
safe for humans but still very effective against fungus. I like it because
it works very well on hostas, even though it may be a problem with some
other plants, and because getting some on your skin while using it is not
dangerous. Some other fungicides can cause problems by skin contact and they
are really not any more effective than Benlate on hostas. I've never lost a
hosta to rot when I used Benlate on the cuts or other wounds to the rhizome.
Simply dusting or rubbing a little on the cut is all you need to do, and
this will have virtually no environmental impact. Unfortunately it is being
pulled from the market for other reasons, so you should get some quick if
you can. Other fungicides are good too, and since they all seem pretty
effective, I'd stick to those that are safer to use.
        What do you nursery folks like for fungicides?

........Bill Meyer

> Hi guys. Earlier this summer I was happy to see that I had a hyacinthina
> which had two leaves with a wide, white strip on one side between the
> I watched it closely, babied it...but new leaves came out green. So 2 or 3
> weeks ago when I joined this group, I have been looking for a way to
> this little guy in the hopes that next year he might show me some more
> stripes. I am thrilled to see what you are talking about here. I am going
> give it a try. But a couple of questions?...What zone are you in that you
> this in Oct? You obviously still have leaves on the plant, but how dormant
> is it in Oct? I live in southwest Missouri where the weather does at it
> pleases. And my other question is what exactly is Benlate? What is its
> purpose? Thanks already as you have given me the ideas to totally
> my family as they think I am Hosta-obsessed already. Wait till they see me
> next year!

> >Hi Ran,
> >        I have another method that has worked for me. If you have a
> >division with a sported leaf or two, you would want the bud under that
> >to sprout. What I do with these is wait until early Oct. and remove all
> >leaves whose buds I don't want to sprout and then scrape off the buds. I
> >leave the leaves I want buds from alone. Before planting again, I dust
> >plant with a little Benlate. It's pretty much guaranteed that the one you
> >want will come up in the spring. You will get to keep the size that way,
> >but it doesn't isolate as well as your method does.
> >
> >........Bill Meyer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Bob
> >   There are four methods used for crown divison/multiplication.  They
> >Bud Cuttings (Alex Summers method)  Rossizing, ( the method introduced by
> >Henery Ross)  Zumberizing, (Bill Zumbar)  and Bud Isolation , ( Ran
> >Lydell's method.)  All these "processes" are done in late summer/early
> >fall.  Bud Cuttings - Individual buds , from the basel area are carefully
> >removed.  Ideally each has a bit of root.  These can be planted in a high
> >humus soil.  They will come up  in spring looking a bit like Tc plants.
> >Rossizing - Carefull cuts are made through the entire basel area,
> >where the leaves connect.  A sharp , knife is pushed through the base &
> >the opposit side, and then pulled down ward to the root area.  On larger
> >plants several cuts can be made.  These need to be done carefully so not
> >damage buds on ether side.  Zumberizing - Cuts about 1/4 inch deep are
> >between the buds.  The knife is pulled ( maintaning the 1/4 inch depth)
> >down through the base to the root area.  Bud Isolation - An arch shaped
> >is made over and down between each bud.  This is continued in the same
> >manner as with Zumberizing.  In all these methods, a dusting of all fresh
> >cuts with a fungiside is necessary.  I believe Bud Isolation works best,
> >it allows the bud to be totally "isolated"  but still "feed" from common
> >root system.  The resulting plants will come apart easly in spring and
> >be large and devlope quickly.  This process also allow one to isolate
> >sports with better cances of not having them abort.
> >   Thanks
> >   Ran
> >
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