Re: Research-Delete if not interested
RE:>> I considered you were right on the edge of flaming Barbara
publicly in just the last few days and I do delete alot.
That HTML tag stuff? Jeepers, you send user tips through all
the time and I never see those comments as a flame. Interesting...
There were several less than flattering remarks stated recently about
someone who has done some rather intensive research, and I have at
least one of his published articles (the scientific version) in my possession.
I have read this research with a trained, critical eye (the last time
I did histology and staining work was while doing physiological psychology
research in 1977, but admittedly it's been a while). I have
read and re-read this research and the conclusions I can draw are, 1) to
accept the conclusions drawn by the author, on face value, without any
challenge simply because I do not possess sufficient knowledge to be able
to reject the conclusion drawn, or 2) reject the conclusions, but to do
so mindlessly because I have no conflicting findings (but who needs
evidence because I'm simply satisfied with someone else's mildly derogatory
statement as being fact--kind of like "who needs to count the ballots?"),
or 3) I can try to train myself on some of these procedures, possibly
making an attempt to duplicate the experiment and get a jump on the ploidy
conversion work that I expect to be doing later this spring, and will ultimately
need to be able to verify before applying for any patents.
I've started searching through Universities in Iowa looking for someone
with Flow Cytometry equipment. I've gone through UNI and Drake but
neither have this specific equipment, but I do have an appointment at ISU
for later this next week that seems promising. While you guys are
taking swats at me for being inquisitive about how people can challenge
the work of another without providing contradictory facts, I'm hoping to
learn about Feulgen microspectrophotometry and flow cytometry so that I
can test for ploidy conversion on my own, then attempt to repeat the experiment.
Subsequently I will either support, refute, or come away with no hope of
ever accomplishing the objective, then learn to be content to send plants
to The Netherlands for DNA analysis. To date, I am aware of only
this one human being who is doing this kind of work, although I keep
asking if anyone knows of others. Ben Zonneveld is that man.
I haven't read an article from Gary Trucks, or Joe Halinar, or anyone else
except Ben. I'm more than willing to ready ANY, but I'm just not
aware of those at this time.
Now if you want to get hung up on my linguistics or any obfuscation,
which I can assure you I would enjoy, you're entitled, but I guess
if Jim thinks I'm being a butthead, I would imagine that he would tell
me. Now are we going to make an effort to learn something about Hostas
on this forum or should I just drop out while you fellas support this inflammatory
rhetoric (on both sides), make accusatory statements, and enjoy the humor
of taking one-liner pot shots?
BTW, the closest Epics Elite Flow Cytrometry equipment I know of is
in Fargo, North Dakota but they aren't doing Hosta at this time.
There IS a Partec CA-II unit in Lieden, The Netherlands, apparently, but
if you know of anything closer, please advise. While Ben has kindly
offered to do the analysis at no charge, the shipping expense and phytotoxicity
certificate can get a bit steep... AND, I'd miss out on all the fun!