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Re: Registration

  • Subject: Re: Registration
  • From: "Bobby Baxter - Wake Forest, NC" irismoose@daylily.net
  • Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:17:08 -0500

Any name reservation list would need to be maintained by the registrar, and would be part of the registration database. The registrar will need this names whenever they process a new registration.

Bobby


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chick" <chick@bridgewoodgardens.com>
To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Registration


Actually, I brought it up. I've been bringing it up for about 5 years and have never had a response. Apparently it is not looked upon with favor. For 5 bucks a name, I'd gladly do it myself if someone wants to name me as Official Keeper of Reserved Hosta Names.

You may be right that my assumption was incorrect. Only Mary can tell us. I just had never seen one of her plants without the Lakeside prefix.


Chick

Bobby Baxter - Wake Forest, NC wrote:

Chick,

I just read Mary's message from earlier. Looks like she simply requested a name that was already registered by someone else.

Mary did bring up the point about pre-registration or name reservations. She is right that the daylily society has such a process in place. For a while you could pre-register a name for a period of 7 years. This was changed two years ago, and now you reserve a name for up to 2 years. Name reservation is only $5 so this definitely helps hybridizers when it comes to publishing their catalogs and web sites since they know that they already have the name approved. For the past 5 years there have been between 2,000 and 2,500 new daylilies registered each year. The name reservation does help with process and is definitely a feature hybridizers love having available.

Bobby Baxter
http://happymoosegardens.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chick" <chick@bridgewoodgardens.com>
To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Registration


It's possible that I misunderstood what Mary was saying, but since she always prefixes her names with Lakeside, I assumed that is what the following sentence meant:
"I unknowingly submitted a name that someone else was using and my registration
was turned down for that reason. I agree with what was done. I needed a name
that was all my own, one that belonged to my plant alone."

Maybe not.
And if not, in the words of the immortal Emily Latella, nevermind.

Chick


Bobby Baxter - Wake Forest, NC wrote:

Chick, I am trying to follow your discussion about naming plants and was wondering why you think that just because someone uses the word "delight" as part of a registered cultivar name that means no one else may register another plant with "delight" as part of the name? There is no such ICNCP rule that supports this scenario? Have your read somewhere that this is the case?

Name prefixes are a common practice in the registration of plants. They do help identify the garden, hybridizer, or series. Adding a prefix will also usually help a name from being rejected at the time of initial registration (as long as it is compliant with all the other naming rules).

Bobby Baxter
http://happymoosegardens.com



----- Original Message ----- From: "Chick" <chick@bridgewoodgardens.com>
To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Registration


I don't see much reason to name a plant 'Bridgewood Shore Master' or something else similar to a Lakeside plant, but I'm not sure why it shouldn't be accepted if I did. It may not be a classy thing to do, especially with your names that are fairly unique, but I don't see any more possibility of confusion with that than with many other similar names. And some of your names are not all that unique. (No offense to the names, but I don't think they should take common words like Charm or Delight off the market just because there are Lakeside plants that use those words. Oops, we already have 'Afternoon Delight' and 'Lakeside Delight'. But I notice that Gil Jones' 'Warwick Delight' isn't registered while most of the common Warwicks are. I wonder if that was a problem. And then, if that's a problem, how did 'Blue Sophistication' and 'Lakeside Sophistication' both get registered.

But then, I can't claim to understand the process.

Chick


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