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Re: Registration


Details, details, details. As interesting as all this stuff is, unless there is some reason that these details prohibit us from doing what the Daylily Society does, it still begs my original question. Why don't we do it? Or at least, why don't we discuss and consider doing it. So far, after suggesting it at least once a year ever since we had the big blow up about manditory registrations and preferred growers, this is the most response I have ever had on the subject. It won't hurt my feelings if the majority doesn't see it as a good idea, but why can't it be considered? And if it has been considered, what was the outcome of the discussion?

I assume that the Daylily Society finds it reasonable, they've been doing it for many years.

And we still haven't discussed my other question. If I have a list of 20 or 30 names I've used here, and I type them on a piece of paper and write "Catalog" on the top of the page and send them to the registrar, does that reserve those names? I realize that's a bit extreme, but what I'm trying to find out is at what point does it become extreme? If publishing a cultivar name in a catalog is enough to establish the name, to in fact reserve it, is that all it takes? And if so, that would reserve the name permanently, rather than temporarily. And unlike the proposed sanctioned reserved name list, there would be no reqirement that the plant ever be registered.
Chick





Bobby Baxter - Wake Forest, NC wrote:

Chick, no name is officially registered until it completes the full registration process. Reserved names are not "registered", but that are being held for a specific period of time or until the full process is completed.

A name may be approved as a reserved name if it meets the current guidelines. However, the ICNCP rules may change while that name is in reserved status. If a rule change affects that specific "reserved" name, then that name may end up being rejected at the time of actual registration. This does not occur frequently, but it does happen.

Name reservation is a service the IRA may provide, but it is not a substitute for actual registration.

Bobby Baxter
http://happymoosegardens.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chick" <chick@bridgewoodgardens.com>
To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Registration


I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Seems to happen to me a
lot lately.

In your first message, you seem to be saying that a list of reserved
names is illigtimate, because the names have to be registered to be
recognized. So are you saying that the reserved names the Hem Society
publishes in the Check List have no standing?

I can't say that I would be surprised if that were the case, but I am
surprised that if the names have no standing that the registration
authority would publish them along with their registrations.

And if that is what you are saying, is it enforced only by gentleperson's
agreement? And if so, aren't we gentlepersons too? So why can't we do
it?

Or have I missed something again?

Chick

W. George Schmid wrote:

Same way. They have to follow the ICNCP too. All IRAs do. George
W. George Schmid
Hosta Hill - Tucker Georgia USA
Zone 7a - 1188 feet AMSL
84-12'-30" West_33-51' North
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chick" <chick@bridgewoodgardens.com> To: <hosta-open@hort.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Registration

How does the Daylily Society get around this?

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