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RE: Midwest Convention

  • Subject: RE: Midwest Convention
  • From: "Diann Thoma" <diannthoma@hotmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:31:35 -0000

Interesting.

I did think that TCing ensured new plants of the exact genetic material as 
the parent; and assumed this meant they wouldn't be sporting in the process.

Diann


>From: "Pinterics, Michael W (MED)" <Michael.Pinterics@med.ge.com>
>Reply-To: hosta-open@mallorn.com
>To: "'hosta-open@mallorn.com'" <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
>Subject: RE: Midwest Convention
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:26:59 -0500
>
>Hmmmm....
>
>Ok  the disadvantages of TC are (opinion follows):
>
>With the huge propagations done thru TC not all of
>the plants will look the same or simialr.  We've been
>down this road before with Francee and Patriot and June.
>There are sooo many variations of the origonal plants
>coming out of this mass TC'ing and the plants are being
>pushed immediately to market that they are not being
>properly culled and just about anything hits the shelf.
>So you could buy one hosta as hosta X and somebody else
>could pick up the same labled hosta and they are not
>the same let alone true to name.
>
>2ndly- Not all plants retain the vigour of the origonal
>plant.  Making them less hardy, less resiliant, less of
>a plant.  This is ofcourse not true to all hosta TCing
>but it does affect some hosta negatively.
>
>3rdly-  Folks who spend years waiting to see if a new
>seedling or sport is garden worthy spend much time and
>effort and MONEY making sure they get out a great plant.
>Then they go to auction or sell the plant.  Somebody
>gets ahold of it and BOOM sha BOOM they are being sold
>at Walmart and the Origonator recoup's nada for their
>time and investment.  So why breed and into new hosta?
>Where is the incentive, beyond pure love for the plant?
>
>Patent's cost much bucks, so to patent a plant it might
>not be cost effective especially if one try's to enforce
>it.  As many plants sport in TC I think that If say I
>had a sport which I was watching for years and thought
>about spending thousands of bucks to Patent I'd have to
>think to myself that with all of the TC sporting going
>on and those plants being turned around immediately to
>TC that by the time I patented my plant and tried to
>recoupe some $ it might already be avail under a diff
>name.
>
>Just a couple of long winded opinions.
>
>Mike
>Milwaukee
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Diann Thoma [mailto:diannthoma@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:44 PM
>To: hosta-open@mallorn.com
>Subject: RE: Midwest Convention
>
>
>In regard to your post, Mike:
>
>1. What are the disadvantages of TC?
>
>and
>
>2. Don't you think greater availability of wonderful hosta is great for
>gardeners?  (OK, we're perhaps back to the --everyone duck--Walmart
>discussion and we'd best move on to a different thought....)  But, a
>slight
>tangent, why can't patent holders of new hosta control them longer?
>
>Diann
>
>
> >From: "Pinterics, Michael W (MED)" <Michael.Pinterics@med.ge.com>
> >Reply-To: hosta-open@mallorn.com
> >To: "'hosta-open@mallorn.com'" <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
> >Subject: RE: Midwest Convention
> >Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:02:40 -0500
> >
> >I know that there are some folks out there with
> >endlessly deep pockets but I have a feeling that it
> >is a sign of the times considering the economy, as
> >well as depreciation of a new and/or rare hosta. As
> >everything slides in to the misfortune of TC it is
> >speeding the rate of depreciation of the more valuable
> >hosta.  I have a feeling, though, that they may rebound
> >as some of the quality issues with TC become more
> >evident.
> >
> >MIke
> >Milwaukee
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rogers [mailto:rogers4@ix.netcom.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:34 PM
> >Subject: Midwest Convention
> >
> >
> >Just returned from the Midwest Regional Hosta Society convention hosted
> >by
> >the Central Illinois Hosta Society in Peoria, IL.  My congratulations
> >and
> >thanks to Marsha Conner and her team on a very nice job.
> >
> >Top bid in the auction was for a multi-division large specimen of H.
> >Tracy's Emerald Cup, going for, as I remember, $320.  Same plant went
> >for
> >$1,100 last year.  My question is:  Is that a normal progression,
> >dropping
> >2/3 every year?
> >
> >Floyd Rogers
> >
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