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Re: About this "having a war" business....

  • Subject: Re: About this "having a war" business....
  • From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
  • Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:44:49 -0500

Hi Andrew
	I am not reading this. I am done.

Andrew Lietzow wrote:
> Hello Bob (and the folks who comprise this eclectic group we call the
> Hosta-Open list),
>  BDeyes6@aol.com wrote:  >> I think these wars have been waged before......
> -------------------------------
> And "I"  think I see how these "wars" get started.
> 1) I asked a simple question regarding policy, terms and conditions and the
> like, regarding your decision to post a message recommending that we not bid
> on auctions of one "Tk49" (essentially suspending his/her auctions. I
> believe the software does not support a suspension option, but I could be
> mistaken).  Apparently, you felt "just cause" existed for suspension and I
> simply asked a question regarding whether there was a written policy for
> such actions.
> 2) Later, you accused me, through a mistaken identity, of being a bad eBay
> seller.  I responded with a request that you correct this public statement
> which was obviously in error (confusing me with someone else, whom I do not
> know), and you chose not to address this mistake with a simple correction.
> Something as simple as a "whoops, I made a mistake" would have sufficed.
> 3) I send a note privately that recommends that discretion is the better
> part of valor, and that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw
> stones, etc. but OBVIOUSLY giving you he benefit of the doubt on this
> nematode issue (read the message again--I was trying to PRIVATELY alert you
> to a possible issue and explaining that I withheld alerting you until I
> could do more research).  Then you decide to throw this private conversation
> into the fire, racheting up the rhetoric and passion, provoking people to
> feel they need to defend you or attack me, etc.
> (And I know I've skipped a few parts, but I hope this is a half decent,
> albeit subjective, synopsis).
> Now we have people thinking we're having some kind of a "war".  I can see
> how they might.  Instead, I would like to redirect you back to the original
> question at hand.
> "Is there a written policy, publicly available, regarding when and how
> action is taken that would cause sellers or buyers to be suspended from
> participating in the HostaLibrary.org auctions".  If you don't want to take
> the time to answer the question directly, Bob, that is your perogative.
> And, if you don't take the time to read my messages for whatever reason,
> then you'll seldom see any value in a applying reason where reason is all
> that is required.   A "yes"; a "no"; an "I have no policy and have no
> intention on working on it";  I would simply like to know because I have had
> some transactions on the HL.org auctions and want to know the procedures
> that are being followed when there is a problem.  And if there are no
> standardized procedures, then I simply need to know that, too.  I would
> encourage you to establish some if you want the process to appear fair.
> That's it. Nothing initially inflammatory at all.
> I hope Mr/Ms Tk49 surfaces soon so we can find out what is going on.  When
> one signs up to be a seller, maybe there needs to be a more rigorous process
> of getting information on just who these people are.  Legitimate excuses
> aside, if I had sent money and was getting no where with email, I would like
> to have access to a snail mail address or a phone number.  Of course, you
> can always use the same method you have this time.  It's your auction site.
> Since there is some public support, however, I imagine the policy should be
> uniformly applied so your actions are above reproach.
> Auction fraud is not a new phenomena and I regret if you think I was
> personally attacking you.  There was NEVER any intention on my part to do
> so.  I'm simply asking a straight forward question about written policy.  I
> hardly think that one could construe that type of a request as grounds for
> "war" or a "showdown at the OK Corral".
> Hey everyone, have fun at First Look!
> Andrew Lietzow
> #1 Plantsman at http://HostaHaven.com
> 1250 41st Street
> Des Moines, IA 50311-2516
> eBay Search: <Hosta HH>
> 515-274-0300
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