Re: You decide........truth......or......scam
This person recently bought quite a few plants from me and after he received
them he called to complain that they were single eye plants and they were
smaller than plants he had received from tc labs. I told him that it was
hard for me to argue, because he had the plants and I couldn't see them, but
that I didn't think anything like that could get out of here, even by
mistake, because that is not what we ship and an order is seen by too many
people before shipping for something like that to get through. When I
looked at what he ordered, I found that the only thing that could have been
that small was a set of streaked seedlings, which he wanted to keep, and
everything else on the order was on sale, plants that I have tons of and
definitely would not have sent single eyes. Nothing on his order had been
propagated from tc.
I told him that since I frankly didn't believe what he was saying was true,
that the only remedy I would offer was for him to send the entire order back
and I would refund his money, including the cost of shipping it back. He
didn't actually give me an answer, but it didn't seem like he wanted to send
I have no idea what this was all about, but I do know we won't be sending
him any more plants.
> I don't quite know how to put this... but it seems to me that taking the
> message at face value certainly wouldn't cause any real damage or harm.
> Why be cynical? If anyone was interested in having a 'grower-oner'
> a personal contact would probably answer alot of questions. I'm sure
> many of the growers on the list have hundreds of seedlings they might
> choose not to grow on themselves, having picked out the ones they are
> most interested in - what would be the harm in letting this person have
> a group of seedlings, you might not otherwise raise anyway?
> Best case scenario - you've made an ill man happy and improved his life.
> Worst case scenario, you've given away a bunch of plants you probably
> would have culled anyway.
> He's even offerring to buy some older plants... Do we have to make a
> buck on everything? Consider it your charitable contribution for the
> > Dan Nelson wrote:
> > I'm forwarding this message because a well respected hosta person..
> > .....who in on HostaOpen......sent it to me privately.......wondering
> > what is going on with this story......
> > I told them it sounded like some kind of a scam.....to me......and I
> > still think it is........but here it is in it's entirety......in case
> > others have received the same message.....and don't want to appear as
> > cold hearted as I do by the very act of questioning it's truth.
> > Dan
> > ===============================
> > HI, I would like to know if you could use a trail garden or grower in
> > Wis. I had to retire and sell my greenhouse and nusery 2 years ago
> > when the Drs. found that I have Rub. Arthis. and cancer. Now I am
> > trying to get back into hybridization, but I have so many Drs. bills
> > that money is very hard to use to get the newer varieties. I have even
> > stopped takine some of my morphine so I could use the $ for plants.
> > Because I had the greenhouse for 18 years I have alot of the older
> > varieties. I would like to get some streaks so to have a better chance
> > of finding a winner of a variety. If I could get some of your
> > seedlings or what ever and I did come up with something, you would get
> > it back to name and sell. I do not go on the road any more so the only
> > enjoyment I have is growing Hosta. I have grown TCs. for one of the
> > wholesaler near here. It is hard to get TCs. because of the large #s
> > you have to get them in. I have 5 sports that I am watching now. I
> > have a girl that is going to help and some day she may get into a bus.
> > of her own, but she is only 9 now so no hurry.
> > If I could buy some of your older var. or something that would be a
> > help Please let me know. THANKYOU, Larry Twiford, 1387 Hy. 83
> > So., Hartford, Wis. 53027
> > PS. I am only doing this so I can have some thing that gives me
> > enjoyment.
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