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> Hi Bob,
> Unless one copyright's their work, if they freely publish it to the net or
> circulate it via a list server, I don't believe that the work can be
> protected.  Nor should the provider expect that it would be.  They freely
> provided it and didn't add any caveats about using it.  The only thing
> restraining people from utilizing such work is their moral perspective.
And
> what is that--there are people who are critical of the Boy Scouts and
think
> their funding should be dropped because THEY are somehow immoral.  See
what a
> twisted world this has become?
>
> No, unfortunately, we are now a country of laws and that is what protects
us,
> not someone's arbitrarily legislated morality.  One must utilize legal
> copyright notices and take protective measures IF they intend to prohibit
> others from utilizing what they appear to be trying to freely share, with
no
> strings attached.  When I send Hosta pics over the internet to Hosta
friends,
> I seldom think about protecting my interests, because others have been so
kind
> to share as well.  But like anything else of value, if you want to protect
it,
> you'll probably have to keep it under lock and key.  You probably have to
> label it and I just don't take the time to do it.
>
> Now in the case where you have posted a message at the Library that states
> that the pics there are not in the public domain, that is a different
story.
> Fortunately, I made a decision (after my very first mistake of using a
picture
> of Blue Angel without permission--I asked AFTER the fact and got it) that
this
> was not kosher even IF it is legal.  It's the golden rule applied to life.
>
> Good luck chasing these rascals down.  They need to buy a camera!
>
> Andrew L.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Andrew Lietzow wrote:
> >
> > > Once you've sent it, I just don't know how you could protect a
> > > copyright, unless of course you note possession right on the photo.
> >
> > HI Andrew
> >         You probably can't but I for one feel someone who would take
photos
> > from others for their site without permission might not be too
> > trustworthy with what they are selling. I know a couple of hosta sites
> > who took every photo from the library without permission. If they aren't
> > afraid to steal photos they probably aren't afraid to steal your money
> > in a sale. Afraid might not be the best word here but I can't think of a
> > better one right now.
> > --
> > Bye
> > Bob             Bob Axmear  208 2nd St Ne  Waukon, Ia 52172
> >                 Hostasonline http://hostasonline.com/
> >                 Gardensights Websites http://gardensights.com/
> >                 Hosta Library http://hostalibrary.org/
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