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Re: copyright?? on library photos

Nobody is suggesting "internet police" any more than we have "magazine police"
or "television police".   Nobody cares if you take a picture out of a magizine
and put it in your scrapbook.  But try putting an ad in a magazine using a
competitor's picture because it's easier and cheaper than producing your own.
Does that seem reasonable? This thing about everything being ok as long as it's
on the web is, I think, more convenient than logical.  If you put a picture of
your family on your personal web page can I take it and use it as I please?
Maybe if I was designing a web page for Proctor and Gamble and needed a picture
good looking guy to sell toothpaste I could just take a picture of Ran off  the
web and use it because it's in the PUBLIC DOMAIN.  Bull.  ("I don't have a
personal web page" is not a valid response. We're talking about your theory
that anyone can do anything with whatever they find on the web.)

I doubt that anyone cares whether individuals take pictures off the web and do
whatever it is they do with them.  I hereby give anyone who doesn't compete
with my business permission to use the pictures on my web site for their
personal gratification.  Take them to your tatoo artist and have Blue Dimples
put on your butt for all I care.  But you cannot convince me that somebody who
has a hosta business really thinks that it is ethical to use pictures from my
web site without permission.


"H. WILLIAMS" wrote:

> Exactly, Ran... the PUBLIC DOMAIN - that says it all. The last thing we
> need is more 'internet police'.  The very spirit of the net is about
> sharing - FREELY SHARING, whether it be ideas, words, pictures.  If you
> put it on the net - be prepared to have others use it, take it, borrow
> it, whatever.
> I would be VERY interested to know how many of the people who are so
> intent on protecting their photos can say they have nothing, they didn't
> (as Bob so delicately puts it) STEAL.  Frankly, people, when I first
> visited the library, I just automatically assumed, as I'm sure many do,
> that the photos were there to be viewed, and used as desired.  Why put
> up such a site and then stipulate that no-one can use the pics?  Makes
> no sense...
> NOW - check your hard drives people!  Got any programs from a friend or
> associate that you didn't in fact pay for?  Maybe a nice little
> LICENSED, COPYRIGHTED Mickeysoft game or two?  Or maybe you've been
> collecting the latest music on Napster?  How about that shareware
> program you continue to use even though you have no intention of
> registering it or paying for it?
> The nice thing about all this furor, is that it sparks interest in bored
> readers like myself who take great delight in ripping into the library
> just for the heck of it.  Carry on Bob!  I love it!  Fort Knox is still
> wide open.   Oh, by the way - that's a really cute pic of you and the
> girlfriend.... Shall I post it on Hostapix?  8-)
> hehehe
> Ransom Lydell wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bob" <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
> > To: <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: copyright?? on library photo
> > ****************
> > All
> > I am getting a real smile from all the worry about the use of pictures on
> > the internet.
>  Any> picture I have placed any where on the internet, is avaliable to
> anyone who> wants to use, with out asking.  I will feel free to use
> others pictures in
> > the same spirit.
> > Thanks
> > Ran
> > *****************
> >
> > You don't see
> > > anyone go to a commercial site and steal photos for their site and they
> > > shouldn't steal from the library.
> > > Bye
> > > Bob
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