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Re: copyright?? on library photos//court is in session.

-----Original Message-----
From: H. WILLIAMS <msbucky@home.com>
To: hosta-open@mallorn.com <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Date: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: copyright?? on library photos//court is in session.

>> Dan Nelson wrote:
>> Andrew,
>> I gather from you posting that you feel it is okay to use photos from
>> the Hosta Library even when you have been told that permission has not
>> been granted.
>> Go ahead and use them if the law is the only thing holding you back. I
>> think you will find that you will get a bad reputation as a hosta
>> nursery and as a nurseryman. If people's wishes don't slow you down
>> maybe lost income and a bad reputation will. There is a fairly small
>> group of people that are buying these hundreds of new hosta cultivars.
>> Bad news travels fast in this group as you will find out after you
>> have been with us for a few years.
>> You seem to have a problem with Bob. I know you do a lot of web
>> work and maybe there is a bit of professional jealousy going on here.
>> I hope you don't continue to have problems with Bob and what he has
>> done and is doing for hostas on the internet.
>Dan, Bob, Chick, whoever....
>Perhaps I did not make myself clear.  This is a library.  Like someone
>said, you can cut photos out of a magazine and make a scrapbook - I can
>go to any public library and photocopy pictures, and text for my
>personal use.  If someone is stupid enough to use such things
>commercially, in a book, advertisement, as you say in another web site -
>that's THEIR problem and and they can be judged accordingly.  What I
>strongly object to is the over-reaction to all this.  
>By putting safeguards, etc in place, you stop EVERYBODY from "using" the
>photos for ANY purpose.  I personally have a directory of photos, some
>taken from the hosta library, of my favourites, said directory being
>named "want list - hostas".  I enjoy looking at an ACDC slide show of
>them occassionally.  So sue me.  
>It doesn't seem to matter what the hot topic of the week is - you guys
>always seem to go overboard.  
>So go ahead Bob, turn the library into Fort Knox - stop the bad guys -
>and the good ones from enjoying it.
>And speaking of copyrights - nobody has had the guts to tell me what's
>lurking on their hard drives. And frankly I don't care.  Ask me for a
>program, if I have it - it's yours.  If you are stupid enough to make cd
>copies of it and sell it - tough on you when you get caught.
>> Bob has been the most generous person that I know of concerning hosta
>> information on the internet. We all love and admire him for what he
>> has done for us. I don't believe you have the right to tell Bob and
>> the contributors to the Hosta Library to make money on hostas but
>> give  their hosta photos away. It burns me up to see you antagonize
>> Bob and I bet I am not alone.
>> Proceed at you own risk. The court of public opinion is in session.
>> Dan
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