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Re: A moral question

  • Subject: Re: A moral question
  • From: "Bill Meyer" <njhosta@hotmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:41:39 -0500

Hi Mike,
        You know, most of the hybridizers that got burned on business
arrangements that I talked to said pretty much the same thing. That working
with plants and meeting all the great people that are around the hosta world
far outweighed the money they were cheated out of by the few unpleasant
people they dealt with. That overall it was a wonderfully positive
experience that enriched their lives greatly. I feel the same myself.
Letting a few crooks become too important is a waste of time for all of us.
They're their own punishment ultimately, since they have to be what they
are. I feel sorry for them.
                                                 .......Bill Meyer

> Though I never wanted to enter into this debate from it's onset I figure
> hey what the heck, why not.
> ....anyway.... here goes.....
> Though extrememly new to the world of hybridizing, yet somewhat seasoned
> in the world of hosta addiction, I never thought to myself at anypoint....
> "Geee I sure hope that I get compensated for all of these great plants
> that I've 'created'!"
> Hmmmm..... 'created'
> I understand fully, however, that I only (as said hybridizer) played a
> small and truly insignificant role in the 'creation' of these new and
> wonderful hosta in my yard.   I'd like to say that on the best of my
> abilities I've compensated everybody involved and likely those more
> deserving than myself.
> I've compensated the soil with compost and mulch for the abuse and
> depletion that I've caused it by planting all these dang hosta.
> I'd like to believe that I've compensated the Bee's for their
> efforts in selecting some outstanding combinations they've made
> by providing them a pool to drink from and a variety of blooms to
> feed from through out the season.
> I'd like to believe that I've compensated the Utlility Co for their
> supply of seedling sustaining light and energy by occasionally paying
> my Bill on time.  I do believe candle light is considered inefficient
> and uneffective in maintaing seedlings.
> I'd like to believe that I've compensated my family and friends with
> whom I'll likely be spending very little time as the spring season
> approaches by giving them a great place to sit and watch me work and
> obsess in the few hours a week I'm home during daylight hours.
> I don't know where I'm going with this but it all seems silly and
> rediculous.   When it is all over with and done I'd like to say I
> lived my life like Herb and Dorothy Benedict.  That I've  shared
> my plants... to be done with at will of those I've given them.
> Had the Benedicts not done what they did, with the grace and style
> that they did it....most of us wouldn't have a plant to hybridize with.
> With the increasing number of hybridizers both 'professional' and
> hobbiest... Seedlings will soon get like sports.... Everybody will
> have one like that in their garden too.  Sooner or later.
> I love to be able to say to another hosta enthusiest that I have this
> one and nobody else does, or only a few do.  I want to contniue to
> be able to say that again and again.  I will continue to trade and
> purchase high end 'rare' hosta and I will continue to get burned
> on occasion by TC.  But I buy whenever possible from the hybridizer
> directly. I've made relationships that I treasure and will maintain
> all levels of respect and trust with.
> Nuff said
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hosta-open@hort.net [mailto:owner-hosta-open@hort.net]On
> Behalf Of NardaA@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:26 PM
> To: hosta-open@hort.net
> Subject: Re: A moral question
> In a message dated 3/15/2004 6:07:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> njhosta@hotmail.com writes:
> The situation is improving somewhat from a truly embarrassing past,
> but there is still no legal protection. I think the more public business
> gets the more honest it will get. If you went to Gardenwatch.com, you'll
> some real nasty businesses to deal with, but most were rated a positive
> experience. Even all of Chick's seven customers went there to give
> Bill, I agree with you one hundred percent that it is a shame that
> hybridizers can't get the benefits of all their hard work.  I really don't
> know a
> solution to the problem, it is a very difficult one.  Most of the people
> that I know
> who hybridize are wonderful people and some of them have such generous
> hearts
> that they will never make money doing what they love.
> Now I will go to gardenwatch and see if I can cause some trouble for
> Chick, what seed did the terps get?
> Narda
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