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Re: 2004 Hosta registrations

  • Subject: Re: 2004 Hosta registrations
  • From: "Bill Meyer" njhosta@hotmail.com
  • Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:42:27 -0400

Hi Everyone,
      This part about silly names brings up another problem with hosta
registering - why do we register and which ones should be registered? This
is another area where we all seem to have different opinions in the lack of
a clear official statement from the AHS on the subject. Some feel it is a
mark of quality that a plant was registered, while others feel that any
plant that was named should be registered.
       Many of our top introducers have been heard saying "It isn't good
enough to register" about a plant that they named and released to someone.
This leads many to the belief that registration is some sort of mark of
quality. Among those who do not introduce hostas, it is common for many to
rate the registrations based on whether the plant was "worthy". Some even
think the Registrar judges whether plants are good enough.
       On the other hand, another group thinks that the registration of
plants is simply the creation of a database of plants that are out there,
and that all named plants (other than those that never leave the originators
garden, maybe) should be logged. They do not consider the quality of a plant
or a name as a factor. They just look at it as taking notes for posterity.
       Dan and Lu seem here to represent both sides of the coin in this
debate. As a database builder Lu records the information regardless of the
quality of the plant or name, while Dan considers whether a plant or name is
worthy to be recorded. This is an area the AHS needs to be more specific
about in its role as the ICRA.
      A few years back we had a battle royale between two camps on various
issues that had to do with the AHS trying to force the issue on registering
without addressing some of the problems with the current system. Most of the
conflict was rooted in there being different interpretations with no
official comment from the AHS on the issues. This problem has its roots back
in the beginning of the society when there weren't many hostas yet and they
quickly converted existing systems for other plants. Because things were not
spelled out very clearly in the beginning, many of the society's most
prominent introducers adopted different interpretations of the rules. At one
extreme some registered anything, even other people's plants, as if it was a
competition to see who could register the most. At the other extreme, some
cut their plants often enough that they never got around to seeing mature
plants to collect data on and never registered much at all. All of this is
just growing pains for a society with an ever-expanding number of named
cultivars, but the AHS does need to make it clear what should be registered
and when. Until it makes clear statements on these issues, the problems will
continue because they are rooted in honest beliefs about what people think
registration is supposed to be.
                                           ........Bill Meyer

> My son was three when he named one of my hosta seedlings 'Calling After
> Dinosaurs', but that doesn't mean I needed to register a seedling with
> such a nonsequitor of a name...
> It's a generic seedling, and will never leave my garden. It does have
> some sentimental value. I suppose you think I ought to register it???
> On May 30, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Bobby Baxter - Wake Forest, NC wrote:
> > Dan, why are you so bitter?  My son was 5 years old when he selected
> > that name for my first daylily registration.  I wish I knew the exact
> > number of children that are growing this daylily and are learning to
> > appreciate gardening and know how to keep it fun.
> >
> > Upon visiting your web site I noticed you are into fairies and that
> > you live "where the fairies roam."  You have wonderful instructions on
> > your web site about how to construct a fairy garden using hostas.
> > Dan, you need to stop hanging out with those grumpy fairies and find
> > yourself a happy fairy.
> >
> > Bobby Baxter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lu & Dan Nelson"
> > <hostanut@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
> > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: 2004 Hosta registrations
> >
> >
> >> I think I get it now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> is probably a seedling or sport of:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
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