RE: Bin Laden info--An eye-opener!!!
- Subject: RE: Bin Laden info--An eye-opener!!!
- From: "Lori Johnson" <IJATSON@prodigy.net>
- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:38:45 -0400
- Importance: Normal
Problem with the write up below is that Afghanistan
refuses to turn over Bin Laden and others of the Taliban responsible for the
attacks. The terrorist acts committed against the United States on 9/11 exceed
the magnitude of the Pearl Harbor bombing by the Japanese. For that war time
act, we dropped the atomic bomb on the Japanese island of Hiroshima.
Many will no doubt die in the ensuing war, but
what thought process would make the Afghan leaders believe that they, harboring
the Taliban and Bin Laden, will not suffer similar retaliation from the US Armed
Forces and other countries horrified by the possibility that they might some day
see a similar attack upon themselves? France nearly suffered an attack on Paris
just 3 short years ago.
how quickly the Palestinian government was to renounce the attacks on the
US. Although the Palestinian Nation may loathe the US, they know what
is ahead for those responsible.
In a message dated 09/14/2001 7:28:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, *
Once upon a time, not long ago, in the reign of the great
Ronald of Reagan, the USA's CIA trained and armed a group of people in
Afghanistan called the Mujahadeem, now known as the Taliban, to fight against
the Soviet army. One of those who was trained and armed by the CIA was
one Osama Bin Laden who, having fought as one of the Mujahadeem on behalf of
the the Taliban has been afforded safe haven by them. With arms supplied
by the USA, they seized control of Afghanistan. It is worth it, I
believe to read the following commentary.
comes from Tamim Ansary, a writer and columnist in San Francisco, who comes
from Afghanistan. ]
I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing
Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today,
allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing
to do with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral
damage. What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing
whether we "have the belly to do what must be done."
And I thought
about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan,
and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's
going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks from
where I'm standing.
I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin
Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the
atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those
But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're
not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant
psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political
criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin
Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the
Jews in the concentration camps."
It's not only that the Afghan people
had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims of the
perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take out the
Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their
Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the
Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated,
suffering. A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are
500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food.
There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows
alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all
destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people
have not overthrown the Taliban.
We come now to the question of
bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age.Trouble is, that's been done. The
Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already
suffering. Level their houses? Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble?
Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut
them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all
New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would
they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the
Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and
hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't
move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and
dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did this
horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the
Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time
So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with
true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with
ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs to be
done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed.
Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people.
Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually on the table is
Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their
way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that
folks. Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through
Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have
to be first. Will other
Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm
going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West.
guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants.
That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right
there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous,
but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got
a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a
billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's
point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the West would win, whatever
that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not
just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?