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Re: Re: NOIDS [was: Just in from seller]

  • Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: NOIDS [was: Just in from seller]
  • From: Kent Appleberry appleb@cut.net
  • Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:07:07 -0600

How would a NOID site or section of a site work?  Just wondering what 
you and Pat (or others) have in mind.  How does HIPS handle NOID inquiries?

Sanpete County, Utah

Neil A Mogensen wrote:

>Pat commented in her response to Linda and my assurance to her that what she
>had wasn't the authentic Chili Pepper.  She said, among other very good
>things, "I still say this forum needs a section for nothing but noids.  I
>agree, the iris the woman sent, is a beauty."
>I think this is an extraordinarly good idea.  Helping keep nomenclature
>clean and correct is part of what motivated the formation of AIS in the
>first place, unless I misread the history of the society.  Getting that
>first Check List (1929, soon upgraded and replaced by the comprehensive
>1939) was a very difficult project, one that has been a gold mine of
>information about early varieties, despite the confusion reflected over
>names--consuming a substantial part of the paper and ink involved in the
>1939's publication.
>Good, high quality digital .jpg files, particularly ones showing rhizome,
>fan base (PBF issues in part), the appearance of the NOID under different
>lighting conditons or from more than one garden (!) might be quite helpful
>in at least narrowing the search.
>There are several of us in the society who actively grew, lived with night
>and day, and loved many of the great old historics--Phil Edinger probably
>the most knowledgeable of us all, but Keith Keppel and Joe Ghio are others,
>several of the California and Virginia folk who are senior members of the
>society and so on.  Sadly for such a website, some of those who could have
>been the most help have gone on to the greater Garden that awaits us.
>I do have some familiarity with many family lines, have eaten pedigrees for
>breakfast most of my life, so to speak, and grew a lot of the great old
>timers that at the time were state-of-the-art in the late '40s through the
>early 60's.  Many of those reached back into early history--like Purissima,
>No-We-Ta, San Francisco and Los Angeles, Happy Days, Missouri, Chivalry,
>early Hall seedlings dating from 1944 or so, many of Sass family products,
>on and on.  With many varieties I got so I recognized many from their plant
>habits, foliage character and such when they weren't even in bloom.  Two of
>my all time favorites were Louvois and Shah Jehan.  I never liked
>Extravaganza as much--something about the jewel-like colors of Shah caught
>my attention and I found it irresitabley beautiful.
>I can't do that recognition as well any more...not only have I "faded," but
>other issues intrude and take priority for good reason rather often.
>Even so, I would gladly be of help with such a website, as I am sure several
>of those I've named-- perhaps the Lowe's, if they are not totally up to
>their eyeballs in the upcoming changes to the work of the Registrar with a
>shift to electronic plus paper Registry of the iris...at least so I hear by
>the grapevine, then there are Clarance Mahan and more--might be delighted to
>be of help.
>Robert Pries' work toward getting a photo library of cultivars seems like a
>monumental task, but is even now under way, I believe.
>The computer age has given us incredible new tools with which to work on
>iris identity issues.  A NOID-oriented web site or group such as this group
>would be a tremendous asset in my opinion.
>Pat, you have just set something in motion, I suspect, sonething of enormous
>potential.  Thank you!
>Neil Mogensen  z 7  Reg 4  western NC mountains

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