Re: Iris ID's
- Subject: [iris-photos] Re: Iris ID's
- From: "lmmunro" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:23:33 -0000
Good rules for iris identification. Early on, I had really hoped
to identify more 'unknowns' based on my own photos...but quickly
figured out that would be impossible.
I'll bet there are alot of iris out there that just do not have
registered names. When reading older iris catalogs, from 40's, 50's
sometimes a cultivar was noted as being very fertile, producing
interesting offspring, etc. Today's catalogs mostly don't even
mention that. So I can imagine that the gardener of 50 or so years
ago was alot more interested in do-it-yourself cross pollinating just
for the fun of it. As for bee-pollinating...I'm sure it happens, but
I had tons of pods from bees last year...and not one seed!.
(and if anyone can venture a guess why, please let me know)
By the way, some of my 'unknowns' also are my favorites; and just
becasue it doesn't have a registered name, doesn't make appreciation
of it less enjoyable.
--- In iris-photos@y..., "Hensler" <hensler@p...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <craigiris@i...>
> > I strongly urge you to NOT try to identify unknown iris. That
> > is how so many misnamed iris get traded around. Unfortunately,
> > up in commercial gardens and we end up with a real mess. Just
> > you have and only purchase from the hybridizer or a very reputable
> > commercial garden.
> Just wanted to mention that even the most reputable commercial
> hybridizers can sometimes goof and send a mislabeled plant. Having a
> business license doesn't protect you from Murphy's Law.
> Rather than dismiss all of the wonderful small-time growers of
> the time to learn how to confirm the identity of an iris. Wherever
> comes from, it's a good idea to follow at least one basic rule:
> the description of any iris against what the bloom looks like in
> before you share starts.
> If (like a lot of us) you find you've fallen for something that is
> mislabeled, start with the basics:
> 1. If the iris was a purchase or trade, contact the person you
> from immediately. There's a good chance that it's a case of Right
> label/Wrong iris and they'll recognize a photo and description.
> Orphans take a bit more detective work to identify:
> 2. Get an accurate description and a series of photos of the bloom
> different angles as well as close-up photos of the rest of the
> what else is blooming at the same time.
> 3. When you find a possible identity, order named starts from at
> other growers and grow the plants side by side for comparison. Plan
> getting comparisons for at least 2 years so you can see how they
> changing weather conditions.
> If your unknown has exactly the same bloom time and the exactly the
> type of presentation, the same growth habit and the same details in
> roots, stalk, texture, fertility, etc., you just might be able to
> it. The trick is to be extremely aware of the smallest detail that
> If all efforts fail, and the orphan still doesn't have a name,
don't give it
> one! While we share some of the loveliest orphans, we make certain
> labeled as unknowns. "RG Unk 1" is a lovely rich blue TB who lights
> garden and is nearly indestructible. I can't image throwing it on
> compost simply because we don't know what its real name might be.
> Christy Hensler
> THE ROCK GARDEN
> Variegated and Colored Leafed Plants
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