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Re: IB-Intermediate Bearded Iris and Fertility

  • Subject: Re: IB-Intermediate Bearded Iris and Fertility
  • From: "J. Griffin Crump" <jgcrump@cox.net>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:08:37 -0500

A very pleasing combination of colors in that first one, Loic.  --  Griff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] IB-Intermediate Bearded Iris and Fertility

These are the 2 seedlings i got from the 2005 cross Galway X Change of Pace.
 
Will link it to iris-talk to answer Sherry's interrogations about what Galway could give.
 
Loïc
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:42 PM
Subject: [iris-photos] IB-Intermediate Bearded Iris and Fertility

Here is the copy of a mail i jut sent to iris-talk and it became all wrong in the process.
So i'm sendind it to iris-photo, in order to make a link to iris-talk, so it can be seen properly.
 
Loïc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] Intermediate Bearded Iris and Fertility

Hello Sherry,
here is the list of the crosses i made in 2006 and in 2007 .
There is the number of seeds i got and the number of seedlings that survived  for each cross.
R means Rebloomer, C means Carrier.
 
 
First are the 2006 IB X SDB :
 
 
 
dd re sa pod pol iris seeds
ID RN
alienor d'aquitaine eitje 2 6
ID RR
az ap what again 3 15
ID RC
az ap chubby cheeks 5 21
ID RR
az ap forever blue 1 18
ID CR
bedtime story plum-plum 3 19
ID CR
broadway baby golden child 3 17
ID RC
candy walk circus clown 5 22
ID RR
candy walk cimaron rose 6 27
ID CR
country dance cimaron rose 3 21
ID CC
country dance first dance 5 26
ID NR
delirium charabia 5 41
ID CC
doll circus clown 5 11
ID NR
dude what again 2 7
ID RN sa sa hi cutie eyes 1 4
ID NR
hot fudge plum-plum 1 10
ID RN sa sa like a charm cutie eyes 2 6
ID CR
lunar frost blitz 3 16
ID RR
maui moonlight charabia 11 30
ID RR
maui moonlight hot 1 3
ID CR
megglethorpe plum-plum 1 7
ID CR
mezza cartuccia forever blue 1 5
ID CR
mezza cartuccia what again 5 18
ID CC
pink pele tweety bird 8 37
ID CC
pink pele pele 2 24
ID CR
pink pele charabia 15 37
ID NC
radiant love circus clown 10 7
ID CR
raspberry blush plum-plum 11 29
ID CR
red zinger cimaron rose 3 33
ID CC
red zinger devil baby 2 20
ID CR
red zinger charabia 8 22
ID CR
sailor charabia 1 7
ID CR
step ahead forever blue 5 18
ID CC sa sa stinger punk 7 9
ID CR
strawberry love what again-PLUM 8 22
ID CR
sunshine boy double byte 5 19
ID CR
sunshine boy franckincense 3 9
ID CR
tantrum ruby eruption 2 4
ID CC
tchin-tchin desert orange 3 21
ID CN
zing me eitje 11 26
ID CR
zing me cimaron rose 6 55
 
 
 
Now the 2006  IB X TB:
 
 
dd re sa pod pol iris seeds
IT RR sa sa abbey chant stingray 2 0
IT RR sa angel heart eternal bliss 11 24
IT NR
avanelle white reprise 4 40
IT RC
az ap touch of bronze 7 15
IT RC
az ap bleu de mer 4 9
IT RC
az ap autograph 2 3
IT RR
bonus saxon 6 13
IT CR
broadway baby earl of essex 5 15
IT CR
calico cat beach girl 7 9
IT CR
cee jay earl of essex 4 21
IT CR
cee jay english cottage 8 22
IT CR sa cee jay stingray 1 12
IT RR sa sa concertina eternal bliss 2 8
IT NR
dream indigo earl of essex 1 21
IT NR sa dream indigo stingray 1 16
IT CC
firebug rom ev 1 5
IT CR
flirtatious midsummer's eve 2 15
IT CR
galway midsummer's eve 1 5
IT CR sa hellcat stingray 3 9
IT NC
ignition rom ev 1 18
IT NC
june rose rom ev 1 0
IT CR
lemon pop white reprise 2 9
IT CC
lunar frost renown 13 48
IT CR
lunar frost cruise to autumn 7 15
IT RR
maui moonlight saxon 1 11
IT NR
northern jewel saxon 14 37
IT NR sa northern jewel snow spoon 6 17
IT NC
of course flaming victory 7 16
IT CR
oklahoma bandit renown 1 6
IT CR
only fooling bayberry candle 1 11
IT CR
pink pele cruise to autumn 3 22
IT CR sa sailor stingray 3 9
IT CR sa step ahead stingray 6 51
IT CC
step ahead rom ev 24 35
IT CR
sunny cinnamon cruise to autumn 5 41
IT CR
zing me cruise to autumn 7 23
 
 
Now these are the crosses i made this year 2007.
con means frozen pollen
Of course, there is no indication for the number of seedlings, they still all are in pots!
 
First the 2007 IB X BB:
dd ss rr pod pol con nb
ib
CR bed time story miss nellie
20
ib
RR bonus baby bengal
8
ib ss
concoction autumn wine
0
ib cr CC DT05-01a midsummer's eve c 15
ib
cx DT05-09a altar fires ?
10
ib
NR june rose midsummer's eve
20
ib ss
low ho silver cameo blush
10
ib
RR many manalos midsummer's eve
19
ib
RR maui mango midsummer's eve
15
ib
CR megglethorpe miss nellie
1
ib
NR morning show altar fire
15
ib
CR pink pele midsummer's eve
9
ib
CR sunny cinnamon midsummer's eve
10
 
Now the 2007 IB X SDB:
dd ss rr pod pol con nb
id
RR alentejo double life
18
id
RN alienor d'aquitaine jabal
8
id
rr angel heart gypsy boy
20
id
rr angel heart cry baby
3
id
CR antarctic fairy footsteps
23
id
RC azap DD05-49l
18
ID
CR baie rose jelly belly
1
id
CR bed time story wizard's return
19
id
CR blast pinch me
5
id
NR blue eyed blond prank
1
id
RR bonus jelly belly
2
id
CR california style pinch me
20
id
rc candy walk volt c 15
id
RR candy walk autumn tangerine
3
id
RC candy walk marksman
15
id
rr candy walk what again
12
id
rr candy walk LA ballet
12
id
CR cee jay charabia
3
id
CR cee jay fairy footsteps
17
id

champagne encore cry baby
6
id s rc concertina DD05-06f
12
ID
RR constant companion wizard's return
9
ID
RR constant companion sparkplug
1
id
CR country dance jelly belly
14
id
CC country dance DD05-06f
15
id SS CC darts punk
2
iD
CR doll double life
13
ID
CR doll ruby eruption
10
id
CR DT05-09a cassis
13
ID
CC DT05-10a DD05-49e
9
id s CR erect jelly belly
14
id SS CC erect punk
9
id
rr ever cool what again
13
id
rr ever cool pinch me
7
id
cr finsterwald hot
23
id
cC finsterwald DD05-01d-bijtje
19
id
NC firebug DD05-01d-bijtje
11
id
NR furioso autumn tangerine
12
id SS RC glorious day outrage
7
id
rr goddess of green jelly
4
id
rr goddess of green double life
2
id
RR goddess of green sugar maple
4
id
rr goddess of yellow jelly belly
4
id
rr goddess of yellow sugar maple
10
id
RC goddess of yellow DD05-01d-bijtje
9
id nr RR golden gusto cache of gold
3
id
CR hell cat forever blue
9
id
RC honey glazed marksman
28
id
CC ID05-05c DD05-01d-bijtje
17
id s rr i'll be back what again
25
id
NR in a flash double life
19
id
Cc IT05-10a DD05-01d-bijtje
17
id SS RC like a charm punk
10
id SS RC like a charm pop up
2
id
CC local hero celsius
2
id
CR love's tune forever blue
8
id s
low ho silver dark crystal
10
id s rr low ho silver cry baby
5
id

many manalos bright eyes
0
id
rc many manalos volt c 10
id
RR maui moonlight cache of gold
6
id
RR maui moonlight betty boop
15
id
rc maui moonlight DD05-22b
12
id
CC megglethorpe celsius
8
id
CC megglethorpe DD05-32b
16
id

midsummernight's dream forever blue
11111
ID
NR morning show autumn tangerine
18
id
NR nth jew pinch me
28
id
NR nth jewel gnus spread
34
id
CC only fooling ID05-05a
12
id
CR only fooling jelly belly
11
id
CR only fooling tremors
5
id
cr or noir lad
11
ID
CC or noir DD05-11c
5
id
CR pawny princess LA ballet
1
id
CC pink pele DD05-01c
11
id
CR pink pele double life
15
id
cc pink pele be my angel
1
id
CC pink pele DD05-01d-bijtje
13
ID
CC pink pele DD05-01a
27
id
CR pink pele autumn tangerine
10
id
CC pink pele marksman
20
id
CR pink pele LA ballet
14
id
cC radiant love DD05-01d-bijtje
22
ID
CR rare edition fairy footsteps
24
id
CC red zinger devil baby
4
id
CC sailor celsius
10
id
CR sailor forever blue
14
id
rC season ticket DD05-53a-sinas
15
id SS RC splat punk
7
id
Nr step ahead DD05-16b-fris
34
id
NC step ahead DD05-49l
48
id SS CR stinger under my thumb
16
id SS CC stinger punk
15
id
CC sunny cinnamon DD05-53a-sinas
15
id
CC sunshine boy DD05-22b
6
id
NR tchin tchin LA ballet
2
ID
cR thalasso forever blue
13
id
CR voila wizard's return
12
id
CC voila DD05-32b
8
id
CR voila all that magic
9
id
CC voila DD05-33b
7
ID
CR voila sparkplug
9
ID
CN voila ticketty boo
8
ID
CR voila forever blue
3
id
CR zing me double life
5
id
CR zing me pinch me
47
ID
CC zing me DD05-38h-klojo
18
 
 
then the 2007 IB X MTB:
 
dd ss rr pod pol con nb
im
NR step ahead elegant lass
31
im
NR vamp rave review
6
im
CR voila elegant lass
4
 
 
and finally, the2007 IB X TB:
dd ss rr pod pol con nb
it
rr angel heart banana cream
29
it
rr angel heart popstar
9
it s rr angel heart eternal bliss
23
it s rr angel heart bounce back c 4
it

angel heart i'm back
0
it s rr angel heart cameo blush
2
it s rc angel heart conjuration c 14
it
rc arianna pirate ahoy
4
it
RC baby bengal romantic evening
22
it s rr candy walk bounce back c 9
it
rr candy walk olympic challenge c 19
it s rc candy walk conjuration c 20
it
rr candy walk yours free
19
it
nr captive sun treccia d'oro
10
it

champagne encore doubleday
2
it
rr champagne encore banana cream
11
it

champagne encore again and again
5
it
rr champagne encore total recall
3
it ss
concoction honey scoop
0
it
CR DT05-09a buc arcade
23
it
CC DT05-10b dolce
2
it s CR erect cache of gold
13
it
rc ever cool hot gossip
1
it
rr ever cool again and again
13
it
rc ever cool pirate ahoy
11
it
rr ever cool popstar
18
it s rr ever cool eternal bliss
13
it s rc ever cool conjuration c 7
it
rc ever cool halloween halo
5
it
cc frizzy mandolin
5
it
rr goddess of yellow summer olympics
0
it
rr goddess of yellow total recall
8
it
CC hell cat romantic evening
8
it
nC ID05-03b sweetly sung
10
it s
i'll be back i'm back
0
it ss rr i'll be back eternal bliss
12
it ss rc i'll be back TT05-09d c 10
it ss rc i'll be back mukadam c 4
it s
i'll be back again and again
0
it ss
i'll be back duke of earl
8
it ss
i'll be back honey scoop
0
it ss rr i'll be back detroit city c 17
it
NC in a flash sweetly sung
19
it

intermediary renown
0
it ss
low ho silver just teasing
2
it
rr low ho silver speed limit
2
it ss
low ho silver juicy fruit
3
it s
low ho silver mother earth
0
it s rr low ho silver immortality
2
it s rc low ho silver TT05-09d
3
it
NR lunar frost treccia d'oro
22
it
CC lyrique TT05-07b
3
it
RR many manalos blazing sunrise
16
it s rr many manalos eternal bliss
10
it
RC maui mango romantic evening
10
it S RR maui moonlight coral point
8
it s nc nth jewel come to me
36
it
CR pink pele blazing sunrise
13
it
CC pink pele romantic evening
20
it
CR pink pele cloudless sunrise
16
it
CC pink pele sweetly sung
14
it
CC pink pele dolce
17
it s
prince of burgundy jet setter
0
it

prince of burgundy duke of earl
0
it
rr prince of burgundy TT05-57a
0
it

raindance return lunar
0
it
CR red zinger altar fire
6
it S CR sailor monty's sweet
10
it
RR sauce mou cheeky
14
it
NR step ahead breakers
31
it
NR step ahead best bet
31
it ss CN stinger battlestar
6
it SS CR stinger juicy fruit
26
it ss cc stinger egyptian
17
it ss rr tickle the ivories detroit city c 6
it SS CR tout simplement mesmerizer
14
it SS CR tout simplement sylvan
6
it
CC zing me romantic evening
43
 
 
Hope that will boost your drive to use the IBs!
 
Loic
----------------------------------------------
       Loïc TASQUIER
       zone 7 - Nederland
 Email :
tasquierloic@cs.com

This is the copy of SHERRY 'mail i'm answering:

I thoroughly enjoyed reading Marky Smith's article in the Fall 2007 issue of
The Medianite on Intermediate Bearded iris fertility, and would like to submit
my own experiences here for those who may be interested.

I must admit that I had heard that IB's were difficult parents, but since they
weren't my main hybridizing focus, I guess I didn't pay much attention.  It
was only after I realized that they had alot to offer the gene pool that I
started using them at all. I didn't germinate any of these crosses though
until the Spring of 2007, as follows:

Gnu Rayz (IB) x Spring Peeper (SDB)- 16 seeds, 1 germinated
Gnu Rayz (IB) x Voices (SDB)- 15 seeds, 7 germinated
Oolay (IB) x (Cute or What x Easter sdlng) (SDB)- 4 seeds, 1 germinated
Wind Spirit (IB) x Stars and Stripes (TB) 35+ seeds, 4 germinated

These will be planted out in the Spring of 2008 as soon as we get our yard
made and I can start on making flower beds. Hopefully by then, more will have
germinated.

In the summer of 2007, I made a number of crosses using IB's as follows:

(Cute or What x Music) (SDB) x Pink Pele (IB)- 3 seeds (I find this cross
interesting because IB pollen is considered to be REALLY infertile and hard to
use.  Pink Pele also formed quite a number of bee pods this year, but
regretably, I got involved with packing up for our move and missed harvesting
them.)

Cute or What (SDB) x Goddess of Luck (IB)- 11 seeds

I absolutely LOVE the IB Londonderry, but have been repeatedly frustrated at
getting any seeds one way or the other from her.  However, it's sibling,
Galway, has given me a handful of seeds this year:

Galway (IB) x Captured Spirit (SBD)- 6 seeds
Galway (IB) x Spring Peeper (SDB)- 9 seeds
Galway (IB) x Starlight Express (TB)- 8 seeds (What should I expect from this
cross?)

Gnu Rayz x Music- 12 seeds (Gnu Rayz appears to be one of the more fertile
IB's)

Pink Pele x Cream Cake- 4 seeds

I am very much looking forward to trying IB on IB crosses and using these
little guys for further hybridizing.  I'd like to hear from anyone who uses
IB's on a regular basis in their hybridizing and your results.

Thanks!

My best,
Sherry Jesberger

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