Re: Re: TB: (Photo) Timewarp
- Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: TB: (Photo) Timewarp
- From: "Margie Valenzuela" IrisLady@comcast.net
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:18:05 -0700
Chuck, the colors on Time Warp was exactly how it looked like on display.
(no color editing was done) The display was indoors under some lights, but
as far as I could tell those were it's actual colors. It may look a little
different outdoors, but I wouldn't think much different. It looked to be as
close to a yellow plicata as I've ever seen. I know one of my seedlings from
this last cross we are discussing looks *almost* to be a yellow plicata too.
Could that original theory been correct at one point in time? Would genetic
material in irises be evolving to the point that it is becoming necessary to
form a new theory?
Oro Valley, AZ.
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> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Margie Valenzuela"
> <IrisLady@c...> wrote:
>> This is named Timewarp. Would this be considered a yellow plicata?
>> Margie V.
>> Oro Valley, AZ.
>> Zone 8/9
> An interesting question. Yellow plicatas are not suppose to exsist as
> theoretically the yellow (oil soluble) and the anthocyanin (water
> soluble) pigments shouldn't be controlled by the same factors. ( I
> could go on at considerable lenght on this but not right now) But we
> do see red on white plicatas and the red is a combination of
> anthocyanin and cartenoid pigments, so what hapens if we then remove
> the anthocyanin with a a dominant or recessive reduction of
> anthocyanin gene(s?
> In this case (another RAR relative) there is an ivory-green tone to
> the falls and the dots are darker in colour. The picture in Cooley's
> catalogue suggests less green-ivory tones, but these shades are often
> edited out of catalogue photos. This photo is probably more true to
> life. Did you edit the colours?
> I would love to test the pigment here to see if it was water or oil
> based. Also a good close up shot of the dots would be nice. I'm
> getting a lot like this (yellow doting, orange stripes etc)with my
> SDBs and like taking closeup photos of these patterns to try to make
> sense of them. So far no good explination.
> Facts are facts and when facts and theory conflict its often that the
> theory needs some reworking. (It's harder to explain away exceptions
> especially when ther are so many) This is why I'm so keen on checking
> what variations on pigments and paterns there are and how they
> interact with each other and how they fit into predicted outcomes as
> with punnett suare analysis. There certainly are a lot of things that
> don't fit the data as nicely as they should.
> Chuck Chapman
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