My ! you ARE up early!!!
So Double Vision is an option!
Paul said he had weak stems with it, as well as
with Double Click, but you are right, it depends on what you cross them
Thank you for the story!
Don't know if it's right to be always 100% thorough
in the selection and discard slow growers; as you say, they still might be
giving good things in the second generation. But this is what is difficult in
I've pulled things last year that i now regret... I
had been told the hardest part was pulling the so-so ones, and i think i over
suppressed my feelings in order to do it, and over did it!
I should have listened more to my
Hope i will know better this spring...
It is quite surprising to see what happens with the
seedlings, it's true. ( for me, it's very new, my first serious batch
(1000) is only 2 years old!)
Some crosses have ALL the siblings grow like mad,
some crosses have ALL the siblings melt and vanish (in my rich heavy sticky
clay...) , and some crosses have one or two growing like mad, one or two
melting and vanishing, and the rest growing at such a slow pace it will
takes ages to have enough just to share with the neighbour!
Hope the ones that grow like weeds won't
be all dogs......
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:29
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] HYB: Luminata
Loic, I thought I'd share my one experience with DV. Several years
ago, I crossed it onto the seedling that I registered as Another Journey but
Held over and not planted until I moved out here in 2003. They all
have been very slow to grow, but tenacious. The pod parent is medium to
fast in growth & increase. A gorgeous smooth burgundy self was moved
to the reselect bed. For my pleasure or future use. As Griff says,
it will probably never be introduced due to the slow
All had PBF, but the real surprise was the two
red on cream plicatas I got from the cross, one fancy and one plain. I
was not aware of plicata in the background of the pod
I've been reluctant to use these in
breeding but I have hopes that the increase problem can be cured in a second
I've been a bit surprised at a relative randomness
of increase. (as opposed to vigor)
Most of the 1812 (Lemon
Reflection x All Revved Up) children have been mid to great with increase, but
some of the children appear to be much slower.
Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:48
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] HYB: Luminata seedling
Welcome back Francelle!
What a shame you lost this seedling!
Asking Paul Black advice on which RE irises i
should buy, and very tempted by using Double Click and Double Vision, he
told me not to use them, having been proven giving very week
I decided to try them anyway, since i won't
cross them with TB, the results might be OK with SDB, we'll see. But i was
Thanks for sharing your joy as well as your
sorrow, this forum should be different from a Catalogue, where everything is (
supposed to be ) perfect.
I find it very interesting to also see the weak
ones, the dead ones, the dogs and the monsters!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:14
Subject: [iris-photos] HYB: Luminata
Robin wanted to see the luminata seedling that
didn’t make it, so here it is. One like this still makes me sad, so I
concentrate on the better ones.
Francelle Edwards Glendale,
AZ Zone 9