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Re: Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY
  • Subject: Re: Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY
  • From: Jan Lauritzen <>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:16:18 -0800 (PST)


Definitely ground squirrels.  Black Holes do quite well.  The other makes noise and we are within the city limits of LA.  And we have no streams, creeks, or rivers to help.

From: J. Griffin Crump <>
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 5:38:17 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY


Jan  --  Within that 4 miles there are two tidal creeks that extend several miles inland, so Mr./Ms. Squirrel would have to be pretty determined to find their way upstream and around them.  As for ground squirrels, if your local jurisdiction allows it, a .22-cal. rifle will do just fine.  --  Griff
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY

Griff,  I am afraid that 4 miles is not far enough.  I would suggest about 10.  At only four they almost beat you home.  The ground squirrels have been driving me crazy for 3 years now.  They seemed to come out of nowhere and now there are hundreds in a relatively small area - maybe 2 blocks by 2 blocks.  They dig and trees have been falling because they are so undermined.  We have lost 3 trees on our dirt road in the last year alone.

Good luck!

Jan in Chatsworth

From: J. Griffin Crump <>
Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 7:20:13 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY

Donald  --  Yes, and transported him 4 miles away.  As a hunter, Iâve only killed what I intended to eat.  In the case of squirrels, however, thereâs literally not a square foot of garden that they havenât rooted up this year, so I have resumed trapping them and relocating them far away.  If I were to eat them, it would mean squirrel stew every night for a couple of months.  Too much of a good thing.  --  Griff
From: d7432da
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: AB: goal failure - AT LAST X DESERT FURY

> By the way, what do you consider "squirrelly"?

Seedlings that twin and triple and more on occasion. Sort of looks like pineappling that's shown in the photos only it's very small seedlings that divide. Not increase. They can start doing it at less than an inch high. Makes for very weak plants and lots of losses unless they get good care. All their energy seems to go toward the division process and getting the plant to any size at all can be very slow. If they haven't outgrown it by the time they might be blooming age, they usually don't manage to bloom. If they do, the stalks tend to be short with variable thickness and a good many of the blooms will likely be missing parts or have extra parts. I've simply let a lot die because they are too much trouble. I'm always curious, though, so I've also managed to grow some for some years. That's how I learned that some will eventually grow normally and quit doing the strange growth altogether. It really has been limited to plants of the TBxAB type seedlings. I don't see it in TB seedlings or AB crosses that have balanced amphidiploid parents as a general rule. I think I've only had one TB and one AB of the type twin. But lots of the 1st generation quarterbred types will produce those kinds of seedlings. That's also where seedlings with variegated foliage show up.

Did you catch a squirrel? Dumplings in the New Year perhaps? :).


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