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Re: Re: HYB TB Photo: SLY FOX x CELESTE (mystery)

  • Subject: Re: Re: HYB TB Photo: SLY FOX x CELESTE (mystery)
  • From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
  • Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:39 -0400


<<A yellow from Sly Fox X Lady Celeste is a mystery.>>

At first glance, Sly Fox appears to be a red bearded white from pink
breedling. Although Bubble Up is pink, all of it's ancestors are not.

(Joseph Ghio, R. 1988). Sdlg. 84-88X. TB, 38" (97 cm), E-L.
Salmon pink; red beard. Romantic Mood X 82-166: (Exhilaration x 79-38Z:
(Blushing Pink x 76-176Y: (((Ponderosa x Debby Rairdon) x (Show Time x
San Leandro)) x 74-1K: ((New Moon x ((Gracie Pfost x Ponderosa) x
Ponderosa)) x Valentina)))). Bay View Gardens 1989.

BU adds a lot of other colors and patterns which can create odd
occurrances. No? Can you not get throw backs for many generations?
I've found this to be true when working with some Ghio reds. (which
contain some of the same genes.)

Betty Wilkerson

-----Original Message-----
From: irischapman@aim.com
To: iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 1:31 pm
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: HYB TB Photo: SLY FOX x CELESTE correction

I'm very interested in more details of crosses of Sly Fox producing
yellows. If crossed to something that is yellow it would be expected to
produce yellows. But in a cross to something that doesn't have yellow
it should not produce yellows.

A yellow from Sly Fox X Lady Celeste is a mystery. As reduction of
yellow is supose to be a recessive, none from this cross should have

Ther have been rumour
s of a dominant yellow repression gene , but no
clear evidence of it's exsistence.

By the way, there is no "dominant White" gene. There is a dominant
repression of anthocyanin gene, but it has no effect on inheritence of

Chuck Chapman

Re: HYB TB Photo: SLY FOX x CELESTE correction

Posted by: "Margie Valenzuela"


Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:18 pm (PDT)

Hi Linda,

'Sly Fox' is a pure white and will easily throw yellows (I've used SF
in other crosses in the past and have gotten a majority of yellows from
it). Lady Celesta is a very pale blue. I don't think I suspect
different pollen parents so much, ......as much as I DO wonder where
that yellow spot and/or wide honey ringed pattern comes from on the
yellow sibling. Any thou

~ Margie V.

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