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Re: Iris Rudskyi upper fall area photo

  • Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Iris Rudskyi upper fall area photo
  • From: "Eleanor Hutchison" eleanore@mts.net
  • Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:43:33 -0500

Goodness, Robert, I surely didn't mean to imply you were wrong, truly!  I probably misread Jimmy's handwriting.  I've correctly my records, yet again.  As a grandmother of 4, I know I'm certainly far from perfect, but still young enough to take positive criticism.  :)
I'm very glad to know the history and am sorry for your losses.  In the last few years, I thought I would have to give up my irises and my display garden.  That bothered me more, I hate to admit, than losing my partner of 15 years!  yikes.
I'd be glad to send you my total list of irises, privately, if you're interested.
Do you have an email address for Jimmy Clark?  Or even his mailing address.  I have an old catalogue of his, but it's probably under a great pile of stuff I've been sorting through.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Iris Rudskyi upper fall area photo



Several years back, I created the position that Jimmy Clark now holds. I was concerned about the loss of cultivars, especially within the Dwarf Irises. I read a book called “The Vanishing Garden” a good read for any gardener. At the time Carolee Clay was just creating the Historical Iris Society which later the grammer was corrected to the Historic Iris Society. I wrote an article on Dwarf Irises for the first issue of “Roots”. To see where we stood on how many cultivars had been lost, I polled the membership of the Dwarf Iris Society to see what was still growing. I found that of the 1,000 cultivars at that time, only 500 were still in existence. The book I mentioned discussed the idea of national collections for the preservation of cultivars, an idea which was going forward in England. I tried very hard to see if the same could be done in the USA. But the Botanical gardens were against working together with private gardeners possibly because of a bad experience that was occurring with another individual who had read the same book and was using the concept to amass his own collection. Dismayed I thought, well at least the American Iris society could do something on their own, and while I was promoting the formation of HIPS, I was also promoting the idea of national collections within the Dwarf Iris Society. As a director I created the task of conservator which is the post that Jinmmy Clark now holds. My concept was to create several national collections of all existing dwarf Irises. Jim Fry, the president at the time, and myself both assembled complete collections of all known Dwarfs. We both agreed that for the system to be secure we needed at least one more garden to take on this task. Unfortunately our fears were proven correct. Jim died and I lost my job. Both collections were lost. We had not done our job of passing the torch. After a couple of years I got back on my feet but the thought of what I had lost is still painful. Unfortunately there was a hiatus before Jimmy Clark took on the job, and I gave him contacts for acquiring plants once again, but my heart for the project had been broken, I am a trained botanist and I try not to make corrections on a lot of items that are posted. But the more one sees something misspelled the more it gets imbedded in ones mind the wrong way. I am sorry to bore you with this history but you seemed to imply that surely what you received was correct and that I had no authority in making the correction. I make mistakes frequently. My typing is atrocious. But I applaud corrections because I don’t wish to perpetuate errors.

Eleanor Hutchison <eleanore@mts.net> wrote:
That's how it was spelled when the rhizome was sent to me, Robert, and I'm rather attached to anything sent to me by Jimmy Clark.  He was the historian for AIS at the time, so I did not question any of his spelling.  :)  Would you pronounce it Rudski_i?
Here's 2 pictures of a closer view of the beard.  It's as close as I can get without distortion, sorry.
El (who hopes to one day attend an AIS Convention and meet many of you!)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Iris Rudskyi upper fall area photo

I believe a preferred spelling would be Rudskyi. When a name ends in a y normally only one i will be attached. This is one of those conventions that has been abused through the years.

Robt R Pries <rpries@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Rudskyi is a bearded Iris. I believe Eleanor was only comparing how it holds its petals to a beardless. not that it is beardless.

Neil A Mogensen <neilm@charter.net> wrote:
This is what I see in Eleanor's photo of *I. Rudskyii* which caused me to
interpret this as a bearded iris, similar to clones of Baumunk's PETIT LION,
a pure *variegata* clone from seeds originating, I belive, in France.

Attached: Beard-area or upper fall/style area anyway of RUDSKYII.

Is that not a typical Eupogon beard? It sure looks like it.

Neil Mogensen

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