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Re: SDB and MDB Space age
  • Subject: Re: SDB and MDB Space age
  • From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0200



thanks for the input Michael, it sure does help!
'Ahwahnee Princess' seems to be a versatile iris, giving wonders no matter whom  it is crossed with! ( i am particularly thinking of the cross with the MTB  'Ben a Factor' !)
A big clump of 'Ahwahnee Princess'  should be blooming this spring, i can't wait to using it, especially knowing it has SA potential!
To come back to the SA SDBs, I've been  using the  SA SDBs from Lawrence Ransom;
you can see the seedlings i got, they are not all bad :
and your own 'Under My Thumb' that  has 'Punk' as pol parent :
i've also used 'Stinger', 'Winged Angel' and 'Bounce Back'. The results look promissing.
so, this is my input for the cause of the SDB Space Agers ...
I think the SDB look smashing with big fat horns, but, like you,  i am not sure flounces are a good idea .
They are so tiny, i am affraid they might end up looking like carnations flowers....with these flounces that quickly can look like extra standards.
still, i will go on, can't help it Doctor, it is a virus!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age



interestingly, Ahwahnee Princess has produced several SA offspring from no apparent SA crosses.....Auroralita does the same thing.  We had a seedling out of something else (can't remember which SDB) that was a SA too but with no apparent SA breeding.  Ahwahnee Princess has been the most frequent producer of SA offspring with no SAs in the back ground.  Under My Thumb is a non SA that produces SAs but that is due to Punk  in it's breeding.  don't know if that helps but there you go...
  ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age



Hello Michael,
about 'Props',  i was wondering how it's SA characteristics came from.
'Bijou', 'Little Surprise' nor 'Ahwahnee Princess' have  any SA genes.
Are you sure of 'Props' 's pedigree?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age



Thanks to all for the feedback on the SA dwarfs,,,, our office rug has been replaced and we haven't had too much access to computers lately, sorry for the slow replys.  Have about 30 different SA dwarfs now, most are unacceptable, some (usually out of Props) are OK and warrant watching.  thanks again for the input.
----- Original Message -----
From: AISSlides
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age

By any chance are these rebloomers?

From: Will Warner <wilwarner@yahoo.com>
To: iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 8:58:32 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age

Hello Mike, I myself am very fond of the little space agers.  I think the rarity of dwarf space agers, out weighs the narrowness and warrants intoduction.  If these are fertile, they would aid in creating more median SA's.  I have mixed feelings on "wide" flowers.  While it is more of the Modern look, I find that substance/budcount/vigor are more important in the garden performance respect.  If they are flounced, I don't mind them being a little narrower, I've noticed wide SA's with big flounces sometimes have a hard time opening, the flounce hangs up in the standards and sometimes snaps off when opening. Thanks for posting these. 
Will Warner
Springfield, Mo

From: Michael Sutton <orders@suttoniris.com>
To: iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 3:03:27 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age

caught it just as it was closing up....sorry for the poor quality
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] SDB and MDB Space age

Hi Mike

It's hard to appreciate littlies from a side view, how does the top view look


Michael Sutton wrote:


Been working on dwarf space age iris for over a decade and have not been really satisfied with the results.  Am not sure dwarfs look good as space agers....... attached is a flounced SDB (red violet/purple) and a petaloid MDB (yellow one) Input on space age dwarfs would be appreciated. ...does anybody think they are worth the effort?  To me, most end up being narrower then average and, in general, the appendages are very inconsistent.

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