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Re: HYB: 2nd year sprouts for intense color
  • Subject: Re: HYB: 2nd year sprouts for intense color
  • From: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com>
  • Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:41:49 -0400 (EDT)


Yes, genes can carry through unexpressed, for multiple generations.
For each generation reduce probability by 2. So how far back is "t"
gene in each of these lines? find where this occurs in pedigree. then
1/2 to power of n, where n represents number of generation. For example
for 4 generations probability would be 1/2 to power of 4, = 1/16 So
1/16 for one line times 1/16 for second line gives one out of 256. And
this is for two t genes. for three copies of "t" gene, multiply again
by 1/16 for one out of 4,096. For 5 generations it would be one out
of 65,536. For 6 generations one out of 1,048,576. So they can carry,
but the farther they are from original plant with gene, the lower the
probability of having it. (this is based on diploid genetics, for
tetraploid it would actually be a lower probability,. higher for first
generations, but 1/4 for later generations)

Three sets of "t" genes gives a distinctive colour to beard, which is
not there in photos of Blue Moonlight that I have.

You could do some more crosses of your Blue Moonlight to other t
factor iris for a test cross.

See my post in response to Linda M re linkage and
probability/statistics of population samples.

Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: MryL1 <MryL1@msn.com>
To: iris-photos <iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 1:36 am
Subject: [iris-photos] HYB: 2nd year sprouts for intense color

What I have as Blue Moonlight apparently grows taller than what
Betty has as BM. What I have may not be BM, but was bought
under the name and matches the description, including "cream beard
heavily tipped yellow orange."Â
Even though it's parents, Feed Back and Brother Carl, show no evidence
of t factor, recessives can, of course, carry along, unexpressed,
Sharpshooter has not been a notably strong grower here, either. As with
so many bred in different climates, settingÂa pod on it has not been
The stalk I brought home from a show was much better than any I've had
here, so may just not like my garden.Â
It could be that the difficulty in setting pods stems from the plant not
being fully acclimated to conditions here. I know it can take up to 3
but by that time, I've generally given up and moved on. I'm still
about that pod on Juke Box Hero. I had to have tried at least 30 blooms
the first 3 years with no takes, while it bloomed normally the whole
We're having a very dry spring this year - maybe that's what it likes.
Here's one of only 2 2nd year sprouts of Come What May X Lunar
The other has a spent primary. All first year sprouts were white with
a little
yellow except one, which was the palest variegata I've ever seen.Â
are darker than they look in this photo.
Mary Lou, near Indianapolis

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