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Re: Re: ib-ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE/ ib-NORTHERN JEWEL

  • Subject: Re: Re: ib-ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE/ ib-NORTHERN JEWEL
  • From: "Francesca Thoolen" <arilpums@comcast.net>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:29:24 -0800

Aren't the new IBs more of the 48 chr types.
 
Francesca
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] Re: ib-ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE/ ib-NORTHERN JEWEL

Getting about 75% - 80% fertility rate for newer IBs here.  Most are fertile at least one way, many go both.  IB X IB, SDB x IB and TB X IB are almost always fertile.
two cents
Mike
  
 

Bonjour Loic,
 
Some are and some are not. Normally, It depends on their chromosome counts. Those with 48 chr will behave like most TBs but others, normally, would not. You would have to search the origins of your crosses to confirm this possibility.
 
Francesca
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:35 AM
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: ib-ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE/ ib-NORTHERN JEWEL


I'm convinced IB are Pod fertiles:

Last year i replanted 2 crosses IBxBB, 13 crosses IBxDD, and 12
crosses IBxTT
This year, i seeded 1 cross IBxBB, 60 crosses IBxDD and 52 crosses
IBxTB!

What i'm not convinced of at all is their POL fertility:

Last year
I must have done at least 300 dabbings with IB pollen.
Nothing else than 1 cross IBxIB and 2 crosses TBxIB came out of all
that work!
In each case the POL parent was NORTHERN JEWEL who is a Shreiner
iris with NO parentage, declared IB, but it might be a BB,
considering it's POD-fertile!

This year i didn't use any, exept Northern Jewel's, since i was
sure it was possible.
I also used Alienor d'Aquitaine's by mistake and it worked.
But to be sure, i must do i again next year, it might have worked
with the help of a bee!

--- In iris-photos@yahoogroups.com, "loic tasquier"
<tasquierloic@...> wrote:
>
> Never listen to people who tell you things shouldn't be done!
>
> When i started dabbing pollen i had no idea about DIPLOIDY, and i
didn't know IB's pollen was sterile.
> And i'm glad i didn't!
> Not because i wasted hours making crosses that would never work ,
of course not, but i didn't completely wasted my time:
>
> ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE managed to pollinate OKLAHOMA BANDIT!
> and NORTHERN JEWEL pollinated SNOW SPOON !
>
>
> with knowlege, i will save a lot of time, of course, but I guess
miracles like that won't happen anymore!
>
>
>
> NORTHERN JEWEL IB 91 SCHREINER parents unknown
> ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE IB-RE 91 RANSOM (I DO x BABY BLESSED)
>

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