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Re: [SPAM] Re: pedigree tree for iris

  • Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: pedigree tree for iris
  • From: "Linda Smith" <irisgrower@cableone.net>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:36:24 -0700

 I checked this out, might be something.
Why I got so interested in this-- is I'm wondering --if w the introduction of so many new iris,
is just not a new name for something that has already been done.  Seems somewhere in archives, there seems to be a need for some controls. I don't like paying for  something so new b/cbut is something someone has crossed already. Like I ask John, who or what determines when a new iris is introduce is  it really is something new or just something w a new name...........???????????????
-------Original Message-------
Date: 11/26/06 13:20:22
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [iris-photos] pedigree tree for iris

Just did a quick Google search and came up with this. Haven't had time to download the trial and fear it may be fairly expensive software, but it is designed for plant breeding
Colleen Modra
Adelaide Hills
South Australia
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] pedigree tree for iris

There are several animal pedigree programs on the market, mostly for PC. Two that have excellent reputations are BreedMate and Pedigrees2020. I use BreedMate as well as an Access database I designed myself, for keeping track of cat pedigrees. I have also put cat pedigrees into Family Tree Maker, but the software made for animal peds is much more efficient.
If you do a Google search for pedigree software you'll probably find both of the above plus many others. Both BreedMate and Pedigrees2020 have web sites and demos you can download and play around with.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] pedigree tree for iris

That program sounds interesting. What is its name?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] pedigree tree for iris

A pedigree program for animals might work better. You wouldn't necessarily have to enter individual siblings from one cross (rather you could treat them as "litters" or test matings) and it wouldn't have any trouble with the inbreeding.
The only problem might be in cases where an iris is fertile both ways. An animal program wouldn't want the same "animal" to be a "sire" and a "dam". The software I use does allow it but it gives me a message asking if that's really what I want.<G>
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:20 PM
Subject: [iris-photos] pedigree tree for iris

There has been some discussion of how to get a pedigree for irises on paper. I decided to try it on a genealogy program for making (people) family trees. It's not easy. The program isn't happy with all the inbreeding <grin>. But it's possible. Here is a chart I made using Earl of Essex. I'm not sure I have all the information correct and I know there are numbers for all the sdlgs that I have listed simply as seedlings. I used the date of birth to enter the year of introduction and the place of birth for the hybridizer's name. For flowers that rebloom, I added re after the name of the hybridizer. I haven't yet added family members to the same "parents" so I don't know how that would work. You might have to treat them all as individuals or you might end up with one being his own grandpa. The family tree maker might have a problem with creating the tree in that case.

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