Yes, you are right, if we want to have enough seeds
we have to have more than one pod per cross, of course, how stupid of me!
but i think you're over doing it a bit!
You have at least 3 dozen in there!
Don't leave them in this plastic bad or they will
About the potential of things that
haven't been used enough in the past, i agree with you!
I've used good old Susan Bliss this year,
pollinated it with Avona, in order to give the newest the potential lying in
that very old but fabulous plant, with amazing branching and pink colour
with bright yellow beards for the time (1922)!
Of course, it will take a couple of generations to
overcome the old shape and poor texture, (but with
Barry's curly irises, it will be fast!) and i'm sure Susan Bliss
will give an extra plus to the new line.
Terry JOHNSON has been bold enough to offer a
foster home to this cross, so it's New Zealand who will see the impact of Susan
Bliss on a new line of breeding!
By using that tiny Mellita, you've brought sth new
i'm sure, and Clown Pants is the living proof of it!
I's like Iris Astrachanica , Persona comes
from it, but also Astra Girl, and to top it all, look at the parentage of this
KEIRITH (Jean Witt, R. 1997) Sdlg.
91-07-G9. MTB, 17-20" (43-51 cm), M
S. pale yellow, lightly freckled pale lavender; style arms very
pale yellow; F. white, dotted and veined lavender, reverse yellow; beards
yellow, hairs tipped brown; lightly ruffled; slight fragrance. Susan
Bliss X I. astrachanica. Aitken's Salmon Creek 1998
Yes, Susan Bliss!!!!! I couldn't beleive it
when i found it in the data base!
I would love to see what it looks like. Can
someone post a picture?
Yes, it's time we take the risk to go one step
behing, in order to jump forward !
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:34
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: HYB MTB
I'll be anxious to see more of your mixed ploidy seedlings.
I also think that there is a great potential for good in these crosses. Neil
Mogensen had expressed similar thoughts: having studied iris history and
pedigrees extensively, he had concluded that the genetic base of modern Tall
Beardeds remains relatively narrow. Because the few breakthrough seedlings
from tetraploid/diploid crossings were such an improvement over the previously
known diploids, they were used very heavily to form the foundation of our
modern Tall Beardeds. Much of the variability that existed in the old diploids
was overlooked in the process. There have obviously been instances where other
germplasm has been introduced into the TB genepool (like fairly well
documented infusions of Iris aphylla). But Neil thought [and I strongly agree]
that great things would come from the addition of variability via more new
breeding material of tetraploid/diploid mixed parentage.
I can hardly wait
to see how your lines develop!
Oh and about (ab)using Clown Pants --
you'll see, it won't mind a bit.
I still haven't gotten tired of using
it. See the attached picture of 2008 pod harvest from 'Bach Fugue' X 'Clown
Pants' as an example.
...i think it's difficult to draw definitive conclusions, because
for me, (diplo X tetra) crosses or (tetra X diplo ) ones seem to work the same
: very disapointing, but also terribly exciting at the same time, so much
seems to be held in these so rare and precious odd surviving
Next year, Clown Pants will be (ab)used to the limits on both
sides of the ocean !