That is fantastic new! Keirith reblooms!
That means Susan Bliss has something to do with it!
Or at least doesn't inhibit Astrachanina's influence!
I must tell Terry Johnson, the cross i sent him
(Susan Bliss X Avona) might give rebloomers, since Avona is a
He also got the 3 seeds from another
cross,TT06-01e = Juicy Fruit x Pagan Pink (picture attached) that has rebloom
(as you must have gathered now, i've stopped
growing TB X TB crosses, i had to make a choice, room-wise, but i still cross
them, and give the seeds away to wonderful foster parents who are eager to grow
I've just checked the 25 schrivelled seeds from
Astra Girl X Slapstick. i think some look a bit better than the others and might
hold enough 'organic matter' to be able to germinate...fingers crossed for that
Thanks for the input about the potential influence
of Astra Girl. I realy intend to use it a lot.
I was so happy when i saw Astrachanina was the pod
parent! The possibilities are so big, considering what i already got from
Persona, another Astrachanina child.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:22
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: Re: HYB MTB
Keirith (MTB) is one I bought years ago on the
recommendation that it occassionally reblooms (on the West coast US). It
didn't rebloom for me here, on the East coast and it never really settled in.
I eventually lost it, but did do some crosses with Clown Pants before it was
gone. One of those is a striped standard MTB that I'll probably register and
introduce, if it increases alright. I have a picture somewhere of Keirith --
I'll see if I can find it for you.
As for Astrachanica, I've been
incorporating it by way of Astra Girl in addition to those Keirith seedlings.
I just planted out a batch of seedlings from Astra Girl using pollen of a
species cross seedling of my own: (Kupari x Rosemary's Dream) X (Kupari x
suaveolens var. rubromarginata). I'd read Stephanie (or Lynn?) Markham's
suggestion that Astra Girl combines well with other diploid [larger] irises,
often minimizing size while preserving color patterns and other qualities of
the other parent. I'm hoping that Astra Girl will improve the flower form,
proportion and budcount that are deficiencies of my seedling. I think I've
still got Tyke too, which is another Astrachanica derivative.
with those Susan Bliss seedlings. I think you've got some great potential
From: "loic tasquier"
you are right, if we want to have enough seeds we have to have more than one
pod per cross, of course, how stupid of me!
but i think you're over doing
it a bit! You have at least 3 dozen in there!
Don't leave them in this
plastic bad or they will rot!
About the potential of things that
haven't been used enough in the past, i agree with you!
I've used good old Susan Bliss this year, pollinated it with
Avona, in order to give the newest the potential lying in that very old but
fabulous plant, with amazing branching and pink colour with bright yellow
beards for the time (1922)!
Of course, it will take a couple of generations
to overcome the old shape and poor texture, (but with Barry's curly irises, it
will be fast!) and i'm sure Susan Bliss will give an extra plus to the new
Terry JOHNSON has been bold enough to offer a foster home to this
cross, so it's New Zealand who will see the impact of Susan Bliss on a new
line of breeding!
By using that tiny Mellita, you've brought sth new
i'm sure, and Clown Pants is the living proof of it!
It's like Iris
Astrachanica , Persona comes from it, but also Astra Girl, and to top it all,
look at the parentage of this one:
KEIRITH (Jean Witt, R. 1997) Sdlg.
91-07-G9. MTB, 17-20" (43-51 cm), M
S. pale yellow, lightly freckled
pale lavender; style arms very pale yellow; F. white, dotted and veined
lavender, reverse yellow; beards yellow, hairs tipped brown; lightly ruffled;
slight fragrance. Susan Bliss X I. astrachanica. Aitken's Salmon Creek
Yes, Susan Bliss!!!!! I couldn't beleive it when i found it in the
I would love to see what it looks like. Can someone post a
Yes, it's time we take the risk to go one step behing, in order to
jump forward !