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It is easy to say that people prefer the TBs

If you had never heard of an air conditioner and
didn't know what it was for-----

Would you look for one to purchase even if it was
105*F out?

If it was listed in a catalog as beige 10,000 BTU
window A/C $500.00, and you didn't know what that
meant, would you buy it?

Perhaps if the others got the same exposure by AIS
as the TBs do they could be as popular as air


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
To: <iris-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] AIS: TBIS

Just a little info from a commercial standpoint.
We sell TBs IBs SDBs MDBs
SPUs MTBs and an occasional JI and PCI.  I like
them all, in terms of
hybridizing, every class is challenging to me.
The fact that there are
awards in every class helps motivate me to
hybridize in all of the classes.
(plus the personal satisfaction of improving the
flowers)  We are a business
so the emphasis has to be on what sells.  TBs make
up 91% of our sales in
volume and over 95% of sales in dollars.  We try
to offer something for as
many people as possible but it is pretty obvious
that the large majority
want TBs.
Mike Sutton
Sutton's Iris Gardens
Porterville, CA USA
USDA zone 8

----- Original Message -----
From: Martha Brown <mbrown@pldi.net>
To: <iris-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] AIS: TBIS

> Dave,
> This is a very good point.
>  AIS Conventions showcased the 434 TBs and
> basically ignored the 420 non-TBs registered in
> that year.  Is that fair to the hybridizers and
> enthusiasts of the other 420 Iris?
> Especially when it is done every year?  Could
> there be a correlation between the lack of
> emphasis placed on non-TBs by the AIS and the
> there are not as many hybridizers or growers?
> Therefore not as many registrations?
> If AIS is going to continue to primarily focus
> TBs then they need to eliminate AIS membership
> dues, implement TB section dues and every one
> pays dues for the section or sections they are
> interested in.  Each section could then operate
> independently in the matter of conventions.
> Instead those people who cannot or do not care
> grow TBs continue to subsidize YOUR interest in
> TBs with their AIS dues.  Does that seem fair to
> you?
> Martha
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Silverberg" <sil1812@molalla.net>
> To: <iris-talk@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:53 PM
> Subject: [iris-talk] AIS: TBIS
> Strictly as a point of information I am
> the following:
> Source: 1998 R & I , page 84 a breakdown of
> of irises registered.
> 434 Tall Bearded
>   82 Standard Dwarf Bewarded
>   72 Louisiana
>   48 Intermediate Bearded
>   36 Aril/Arilbred
>   31 Border Bearded
>   26 Species Hybrid (Spec-X)
>   25 Japanese
>   24 Pacific Coast Native (CA)
>   20 Siberian
>   19 Species
>   13 Spuria
>   13 Miniature Dwarf Bearded
>   11 Miniature Dwarf Bearded
> How many of you would spend your hard earned
> money/retirement income/etc
> to attend a spuria convention where there would
> only 13 new
> varieties. I sure as heck wouldn't. Right now
> after Nancy's illness I
> suspect that I have somewhere in excess of 2000
> varieties and I also
> suspect that it is right in line with the
> of those indicated
> above. I try to grow as many different types as
> conditions will allow
> but when I want to see the maximum number of
> varieties of the type I
> have most of and to be able to see the maximum
> number of iris friends
> that I have acquired over these last 35+ years I
> most assuredly will not
> find them at a "mini-convention".
> One other point should be made about the TBIS
> "meeting" in Portland.
> Where else but in Oregon would/could TBIS be
> to provide the likes
> of  Schreiner's and Cooley's Gardens, Keith
> Keppel, Paul Black, et al??
> The TBIS shot their bolt on the first try. What
> are they going to do for
> a follow-up??
> Dave Silverberg
> ------------------------------------------------


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