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Re: Trial garden form:

So I would need to make a formal request for forms from a particular person
in charge of organizing the program?  I would imagine there would have to be
a charge for this service and/or form?  Similar to the form when you
register an iris? ( I am assuming there is a charge as I haven't gotten that
far yet.)  I know in the African Violet Society they charge for registration
forms, not the actual registration.

Also, since someone would be providing the forms for any particular seedling
would they then be needing a completed copy of the final evaluation?  That's
a lot to keep track of especially since they really have no use for all that
data. It's really only of use to the hybridizer.  Perhaps once it's
registered with AIS it could submitted with it's registration form.  Is that
your line of thinking?

I'm not objecting, just picking your brain.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Char Holte" <cholte@wi.rr.com>
To: "Paul Archer" <pharcher@mindspring.com>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 09:28 PM
Subject: RE: [iris] Trial garden form:

Hi Paul,
I think we would limit access.  By that I mean we
would keep track of who gets the forms so we would
know who is doing the tracking.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net
[mailto:owner-iris@hort.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:55 PM
To: Iris Talk Archives
Subject: [iris] Trial garden form:

I think it should also have a section that
describes a seedling's/variety's growth tendency
during summer and winter.  Does it go dormant as
in I. aphylla or the SOME of the arilbreds which
shed their leaves, or semi-dormant and cease groth
but remain foliaged, or continue growth? Also,
winter/early spring growth tendencies.

Also there should be a section for additional,
miscellaneous positive or negative comments,
mishaps or general impressions observed during the

Some of these observations would need to be
observed at certain times.  For instance rhizome
width and leaf retention in late July, and
obviously bloom (# as well as double and triple
socketed) and stalk characteristics in Spring when
blooming.  Maybe even a separate section for
rebloom qualities, buds (also and option for
number of triple budded sockets), branching ect.

I do feel I am making this all seem so complicated
but these are the things a hybridizer looks at( or
maybe should be now that we are forming this group
!). If anyone thinks it is a bit overboard please
say so.  I do feel that is the best way to get the
best results from the Trial Gardens and would make
all the effort put into them most effective.
Also, if someone were new to hybridizing they
could look at the form and see what they should be
looking for in their own selections and would give
them a really good start.

I am thinking every member in the program would
have a copy (paper or on computer/disk/CD). If a
hybridizer wishes to they could cross out the
sections or criteria they are not interested in.
Then when they send their rhizome to a
predetermined tester site they would send the
coresponding forms in the same package. That would
probably be the easiest.  From there the results
can be entered on a web page or simply
mailed/emailed back to the hybridizer.

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