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RE: Re: HYB: Edith Wolford

The first two years my STH was great, then it
died.  I have not disturbed the clump and I am
waiting to see what happens.
Char, New Berlin, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net
[mailto:owner-iris@hort.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:18 AM
To: Iris Talk Archives
Subject: RE: [iris] Re: HYB: Edith Wolford

I did get Edith Wolford to grow for me in
Indianapolis for a few years.  I was never happy
with it's growth.  I eventually dug it up and
trashed it.  It was certainly one of the
varieties, and a Dykes Winner at that, that pushed
me to pursue hybridizing.  I did get a seedling
off of it from Navajo Jewel that I have kept and
does OK and use it for further breeding and now
have two grandchildren from it with 'Sky and Sun',
both gorgeous blue amoenas with lots of buds, one
bubble ruffled.

Don't forget 'Stairway to Heaven' is an E.W. child
and it always grows well for me.  It lacks the
blocky, bubble ruffling and have had limited
succes in getting seed from it.  But ya keep

Originally Zone 5, Indianapolis, currently Zone 7
Raleigh, NC

Origianl Message:-------

You are not the only ones.  I can not get Edith to
grow here in Wisconsin.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net
[mailto:owner-iris@hort.net] On Behalf Of jgcrump
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:52 PM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: Trialing,

Linda  --  Yes, EDITH WOLFORD is another good
example.  It didn't enter my mind, since it didn't
live long enough here for me to see it in bloom.
-- Griff

zone 7 in Virginia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Mann" <lmann@volfirst.net>
To: "iris- talk" <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:20 PM
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: Trialing, gardenability

> Tho not all are primarily motivated by the 'big
money and big glory'
> Anner mentions, I must confess that I have
similar 'selfish'
> hybridizing goals.  I am trying to breed
cultivars that will bloom
> gloriously and reliably here.
> I've already demonstrated to my own satisfaction
that, regardless of
> how well a seedling of mine does for me, not
everything I hybridize
> here will stay alive elsewhere.  Even within my
own general geographic
> area.
> But there is one big difference - I am very
curious about how my
> seedlings perform outside of my garden.  From
what I hear from other
> small hybridizers, there is no money to be made
from introductions -
> the few dollars made don't even offset the
advertising for the few
> small time folks I've talked to.  So I probably
won't bother
> registering anything unless by some wild fluke I
get something that
> both thrives here <and> is somewhere near the
cutting edge, or turns
> out to be a really good and well-liked performer
in the general
> region.  But I will continue to send for trial
to a few daubers and
> friends I know and trust.  I get the impression
that curiosity isn't
> shared by all hybridizers <g>
> Re: Griff's tale of LADY FRIEND and BEST BET:
An even better example
> would have been our old much maligned highly
> who won't even live long enough to bloom for a
<lot> of people.  But
> look at all those wonderful kids, some of which
even do reasonably
> well for me!
> Anner ruminates:
> <'gardenablity," especially
>                    "gardenability" over a broad
geographical area, is
> not among the goals shared
>                    by the preponderance of them
[hybridizers], who are
> breeding for new breaks of color and
>                    form.
> I am told that competition is very fierce, that
the big money and big
> glory
>                    are at the cutting edge, and
there is a limited
> window in which to get a new
>                    introduction onto the market;
accordingly, culling
> and trialing must happen
>                    largely in the hybridizer's
own garden. If other
> trialing is wanted, it is likely
>                    to be done by a trusted
colleague, a fellow
> hybridizer, who can offer
>                    sophisticated insights. I
understand that it may
> even be possible that in some
>                    quarters the experience of
gardeners around the
> country may not considered relevant
>                    to the goals being persued,
or even very
> interesting. ....Anner Whitehead

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