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RE: Trial Garden Information and consideration

It's officialness or unofficialness was simply being discussed.  I don't feel it has to go through AIS, but they might be an asset to it's success at some point.  I dunno.  But someone, or a select group of people, is going to need to keep it organized and oversee certain aspects of it, be it posting contacts and locations of hybridizers and trial gardens on a website or in some other fashion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Char Holte <cholte@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Aug 31, 2005 11:14 AM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: RE: [iris] Trial Garden Information and consideration

I had assumed this was a unofficial thing and we
would be doing this a spin of this web page.

Do we need to have the AIS involved.  This is
nothing official.  If we decide it is working and
serving needs we can approach AIS then.
How do all of you who have had comments about a
trial garden feel?

Char, New Berlin WI
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net
[mailto:owner-iris@hort.net] On Behalf Of Ellen
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:08 PM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: RE: [iris] Trial garden form: acqusition

Paul Archer wrote:
>>> AIS essentially would have control of sending
out the forms and who 
>>> gets them (the hybridizer) and
contact lists of hybridizers and Trial Gardens.  I
like that! Does anyone have any ideas pertaining
to the 
AIS seeing Trial results for Registration purposes
or posing any problems .....or even interest you
at all. <<<
If you are seriously thinking about the American
Iris Society taking on a task like this, the
channels have to be followed and that starts with
having AIS approval. Meaning that someone has to 
present it to the Board and have a workable plan.
Of course, that would necessitate someone actually

being at the convention Board mtg. (or Fall Board
Mtg.) and being prepared for lots of
My personal feelings aside, that may be a bit
naive. I think drawing up a form is the least of
the obstacles. Besides having a ready supply of
trial gardens, you need hybridizers willing to
send their sdlgs. for 
I personally feel that the informal way that some
hybridizers do it now is easiest,etc.Granted, it
not perfect but gardening is a fickle business. 
Of course, hybridizers breed irises that do well
in their own gardens. I have no problem with
that...the main problem is that being an AIS
judge, I agreed to grow and evaluate new intros.
(read: pricey intros.). I am just discovering
that many of my fellow judges don't do that but
they vote the AIS official ballot. How reliable
are the 'winners'? I think we know the answer.
Just look at the numbers that vote and look at the
winning totals. 
Note bene: No one is more concerned with
gardenability of irises than those of us in USDA
Zone 3.
Ellen (feeling the effects of Katrina up here next
to the Canadian border)


Ellen Gallagher / ellengalla@yahoo.com / Editor,
The Siberian Iris 
Berlin, New Hampshire - USDA Zone 3 
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