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Re: HYB: HIST: umbrata

--- In iris-talk@egroups.com, Linda Mann <lmann@i...> wrote:
> Another variegata looking one is BERTHA GERSDORFF, which sez on 
> website:
> <BERTHA GERSDORFF.  TB-MLa-Y9L (Sass-J. 1942)  No.40-163. (From 
> plicata seedlings)>
> So maybe this IS related in some wierd way to the plicata/glaciata
> genes???
> What would a <yellow plicata> from that era have looked like?  White
> ground with yellow plicata rims of some sort?
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8

--I have been doing a lot of reading of the old material. By yellow 
plicata they were referring to the yellow ground stitched brown or 
burgundy. This was new at that time as most plicatas up until then 
were white ground. Now of course we have yellow ground and pink ground 
plicatas. Generally the ground colour (carotines)is not influenced by 
the plicata genes which efects only the anthocyanin pigments. There 
can be interactive effects such as with the "ringed" factor that has 
shown up with some of my SDB seedlings. This (ring factor) will need 
more study. It is possibly a flavanoid pigment rather then a carotine 
pigment. The carotine pigment family are the yellow and pink ground 
The umbrata factor can interact with the plicata genes as seen with 
Owyee Desert, Owyee Amethyst, Bruneaau Jasper and Wild Jasmine. The 
fist three have the Umbrata with yellow and violet while Wild Jasmine 
has it only with violet. Umbrata doesn't seem to be a plicata allele.

Chuck Chapman, Guelph, Ontario, Canada

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