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Re: Iris Fairies - & Perils of designing/interpreting surveys!

I think I should more carefully read the posts before I reply <G>. When I read the
post regarding the survey, it somehow stuck in my mind that it was a survey given
at a
regional show (does that exist?) rather than a regional meeting. After re-reading
I see that
this was incorrect, and I agree with Betty's comments re: her survey and that they
are very
interesting. My apologies to you, Betty.

To address that some clubs run off members, I can attest to that. I am not opposed
to the concept
of shows, just how they have been in my limited experience. Perhaps I need to get
out to more shows and see how it is done. I have only attended 6 shows, 5 put on
by my home club and one put on by a neighboring club. None of the shows were what
I would consider welcoming to the public, although they did serve the purpose of
educating folks about irises. To my knowledge we never signed up a new local
member or AIS member. At the show not put on by my club, I had 6 blue ribbons out
of seven irises, and 2 best of sections. I entered simply for the experience of
entering and showing. I was informed after winning that I had won prizes, only to
have that rescinded because I was not an AIS member at the time or a member of the
host club. I was not offered the oppurtunity to join either. As far as my home
club, it has since disbanded, mostly from internal strife and lack of more than 5
people who would do any of the necessary work to sustain events. Shows are al lot
of work, and should be fun for all participants, or at the least rewarding in that
goals were accomplished.

John Bruce

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Autmirislvr@aol.com>
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [iris] Iris Fairies - & Perils of designing/interpreting surveys!

> In a message dated 2/7/2006 12:41:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> jbruce1@cinci.rr.com writes:
> <<I think then that you would see the percentage who said they  wouldn't grow
> without a show to be much  smaller.  >>
> John, Gesine, and Others,
> For clarity . . .
> the intention of my survey was NOT to determine how many people grow irises
> only to show them!  The primary purpose of the survey was to determine
> specifics about attitudes toward garden irises in general and rebloomers in
> particular.  This was one of 20 questions.  NOT the only  question.  Far from
> the 'point' of the survey.
> The survey was only mentioned to back up my allegation that there were SOME
> people that grow irises just to show!   I made no claim to how many .  . .
> only to my surprise at the number.
> No attempt to extrapolate the numbers has been made on my part.  It  was
> simply an observation.  One I thought interesting enough to pass  on.
> My surprise might have been greater because I am not one of them!
> Some people, total number unknown, do grow irises just to show  them.  I've
> known many iris lovers in and out of the AIS, and I have  personally known some
> (a few) of these people.  <vbg>
> In my opinion no survey can be determined to be 'pure.'  It will  always
> carry the bias or intention of the person who compiled the survey.   Margins of
> error exist.
> ________________________________________________________
> If you  don't cross them, you can't  plant them!
> Betty W. in South-central  KY Zone 6 ---
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> (http://www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/)
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