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Re: HYB:Rebloomers

Thanks Mike

My fault!
 i prefer in fact, easier to fix...

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mike Greenfield
  To: iris@hort.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers

  Lioc your link is incomplete.

  Should be


  Drop down a line when doing the "Paste"

  Mike G
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
  To: <iris@hort.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers

  > Collen
  > here is the link to Candy Walk's picture i've put on iris-photo on 28 Dec
  > 2006
  > tos/dec06/msg00218.html#marker
  > i guess we are blessed with so much humidity here that the iris thrive!
  > (when
  > they don't rot...)
  > And even if the winters can hit hard, they don't seem to really mind.
  > The pots of seeds are actually turning into ice cubes every now and then ,
  > so
  > i guess the ones that will germinate in these conditions have been warned
  > they'd better get used to pretty tough conditions...
  > My problem wit the rebloomers from warmer countries is that they are
  > caught by
  > the early frost.
  > In fact, they do rebloom well, but a bit too early for here!
  > We must shorten the time between the bloom and the rebloom, and they will
  > be
  > perfect for the zones 6-7 !
  > Looc
  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Impressive Irises
  >  To: iris@hort.net
  >  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:02 PM
  >  Subject: RE: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
  >  Hi Loic
  >  Would you believe that some of your "reliable" rebloomers , that I grow,
  >  have never rebloomed for me. Eg Vic Falls, Blue Suede Shoes.
  >  Breakers, Honey Glazed, Renown (which I threw away because it was so
  > ugly)
  >  and Low Ho Silver do very occasionally. Forever Blue won't survive in
  >  hot climate.
  >  Do you mean Candy Walk or Candy Rock? Candy Rock blooms extremely early
  > for
  >  us but has never rebloomed other than the year I imported it when it was
  >  very confused.
  >  Colleen Modra
  >  Adelaide Hills
  >  South Australia
  >  www.impressiveirises.com.au
  >  -----Original Message-----
  >  From: owner-iris@hort.net [mailto:owner-iris@hort.net] On Behalf Of loic
  >  tasquier
  >  Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 5:35 AM
  >  To: iris@hort.net
  >  Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
  >  Hello John,
  >  I have chosen to go for Rebloomers precisely for the reasons you are
  > giving!
  >  I was SO FURIOUS not to see the so-called rebloomers do anything and
  >  fail
  >  me all the time that i have decided to beat them at their own game!
  >  With the help of the reliable ones, such as Low Ho Silver, Angel Heart,
  >  Forever Blue,  Midsummer's eve, Charabia, What Again, Immortality,
  > Starship,
  >  I'll be Back, I'm Back, Champagne encore, Hot, Frankincense, Cry Baby,
  >  Eternal
  >  Bliss, Buckweat, Violet Music, Elegant Lass, Rave Review, Altar Fire,
  >  Ida,
  >  Lenora Pearl, Blessed Again, Concoction, Bonus, Candy walk, Honey
  >  Autumn Tangerine, Baby Prince, Bright Eyes, Gypsy Boy, Derive, Best Bet,
  >  Blue
  >  Suede Shoes, Breakers, Pink Attraction, Earl of Essex, Renown, Victoria
  >  Falls,
  >  Banana Cream, Returning Chameleon, Dark Crystal, Cheeky, Over and Over,
  >  Skyking Returns............. i must stop now, but there are so many
  >  It will be long, but i'm sure something good will come out of it.
  >  Even if only ONE  of my seedlings makes it and reblooms in zone 3, i'll
  > be
  >  Happy!
  >  My biggest issue will be the space, they need time to show their
  >  and
  >  more time in the ground means less space for seedling.
  >  We'll see!
  >  By the way, it also makes me furious, when so-called rebloomers,( in
  >  they
  >  should be called "fall-bloomers" ), refuse to bloom in the spring....but
  >  this
  >  is another story....
  >  Looc
  >    ----- Original Message -----
  >    From: John Bruce
  >    To: iris@hort.net
  >    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:34 PM
  >    Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:Rebloomers
  >    I can understand why the general gardening public wants reblooming
  > irises.
  >    Irises are beautiful, and the "ratty, boring" foliage one has to look
  > at
  >  all
  >    summer and fall is easily justified with rebloom. Again, this is
  > speaking
  >    for the general gardener. I live in an area where rebloom is sparse
  > even
  >  in
  >    a good year for it when you do all the right things and the weather
  >    cooperates. I hear many local folks complain about "supposedly a
  >  rebloomer"
  >    or "never rebloomed for me".
  >    I wonder how many folks are turned away from non-performing irises
  > because
  >    they think it is just a marketing ploy or that it requires too much
  > work
  >  to
  >    get rebloom? I agree that education about rebloom would counteract
  > of
  >    this. It would also help if commercial sellers would not advertise
  >    everything that reblooms in sunny southern California as a rebloomer,
  >    because that is a unique climate.
  >    As a Zone 5 garden and seller of irises I can truthfully say I NEVER
  > list
  >    anything as a rebloomer. Why? Because I owe it to my customer to
  > deliver
  >    what is advertised. If I can't count on something to perform for me, I
  > can
  >    not make a promise to my customer that it will do so for them.
  >    I am not at all against rebloom. However, as a person who attempts to
  >    hybridize, I never focus on rebloom. Space is limited, I can't really
  > test
  >    for the trait in my seedlings, and so I make crosses with my
  > preferences
  >  in
  >    form, vigor and color in mind. If a reblooming parent gets in there it
  > is
  >    fine, but I never select a parent for that trait. I introduced
  >    last year. It has never even attempted to put up a rebloom stalk for
  > in
  >    the 8 years that it was grown here, but a piece that was sent to
  >  California
  >    sent up a fall stalk. I still would never list it as a rbloomer.
  >    Betty W. lives about 3 hours or so due south of me, and frost hits
  > there
  >    about 3 weeks after it does here. It does get cold where she is, but
  > the
  >    length of season allows her to work with rebloom. Irises may indeed
  > need
  >  to
  >    move in the direction of rebloom to remain relevant to more than just
  >    collectors, but keep in mind that there is still about 25% of the
  >  geography
  >    and population who live where a ***LOT*** of work will have to be done
  > to
  >    make REbloom a relevant feature in irises :)
  >    No feathers ruffled, just a different perspective.
  >    John Bruce
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