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Re: Leaf Spot--aphids--foliar feeding

  • To: Multiple recipients of list <iris-l@rt66.com>
  • Subject: Re: Leaf Spot--aphids--foliar feeding
  • From: nickishay@juno.com (Nicki Shay)
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:27:33 -0700 (MST)

That famous guy on PBS is very practical - and his recipes do work!  I
mixed lemon detergent, a brew made from chewing tobacco, a little mineral
oil as a sticker, some shaved and melted/watered down fells naptha soap,
some stale beer, and mixed it up in a gallon pail - put a quart jar on
with a lid that fits the hose, and sprayed EVERYTHING - including the
lawn. I managed NOT to have one aphid, white flies or pests on my plum,
cherries, pears, lawns, flowers of all kinds - all year long.  I did
spray this mix several times throughout spring and summer.  

It was wonderful not to be attacked with white flies that hang around the
plum tree.  I sprayed before the plums were formed and after they were

My daughter in Oregon only uses Miracle Grow on her iris, and in her
veggie garden - and she has had super success!

One more thing these unusual sprays do?   NO LAWN FLEAS last summer on my

All Natural seems to be best.   But what about the rot caused by moisure
here in the Northwest?  Cut out the stinking section and get rid of it. 
Pour a bleach solution on the rhizome where the rot came out of , then
sprinkle with Comet.  Works for me.

Now about the moles who love the iris.  Our local experts say use traps. 
That's good if you only have a few.  I cut my husband's hair - and I
stuff his hair in the holes.  Bye Bye moles.  At least they went over t0
the neighbors!!! (smile)

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:10:50 -0700 (MST) Edmundas Kondratas
<stogutis@kaunas.omnitel.net> writes:
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>on Leaf Spot matter you wrote,
>I would love to comment on the leaf spot issue.  Being from the Deep 
>Humid South, one would expect that my garden would be overrun with 
>spot.  Watching the last few posts on leaf spot, I wondered how I had
>managed to escape this nasty sounding stuff.  I speculated as to what 
>I =
>doing differently than everyone else. It must be the foliar sprays as 
>I =
>not use any heavy duty chemicals or any fungicide sprays in my garden.
>I'm pretty aggressive at removing spent or yellow foliage on my TB's
>throughout the year.  I use foliar sprays on all of my perennials =
>the irises and daylilies. I use a spray of a store brand "Miracle-Gro 
>fertilizer with other things thrown in: Epsom salts, dishwashing 
>(AJAX Lemon- phosphate free), fish emulsion with seaweed extract, and 
>Tabasco sauce (for the rabbits).  I figure that I kill the aphids and 
>the plants at the same time.  The key ingredient that may be 
>deterring the leaf spot is the dishwashing liquid. The soap dries 
>little aphids up overnight and lemon is said to deter ants (aphid =
>My wife (a non-gardener) has commented in the past to me saying that 
>bearded irises have such healthy looking foliage compared to the ones 
>sees in neighborhood gardens. I also find that this foliar feeding =
>is an easy way to fertilize without any worry of disturbing shallow =
>I do incorporate some slow release fertilizer, alfalfa pellets, and =
>manure at transplanting time.
>I love to experiment with things added to the foliar sprays.  Anyone =
>have a favorite ingredient (things fairly non-toxic to humans)?  I 
>once =
>a famous gardening fellow (can't remember his name) on the local PBS =
>channel talking about mixing up a concoction with Listerine mouthwash,
>beer, tobacco juice, and lots of other household items.  Anyone know =
>this fellow and if his homemade garden remedies actually work?
>Donald Mosser
>North Augusta, South Carolina, USA
>On the South Carolina and Georgia Border
>USDA Zone 7b-8
>Donald and all,
>take attention, please, that leaf spot disease and influence of aphids 
>are two different things. We have also sometimes lot of aphids, but =
>there is no problem to persuit aphids. I use very sticky as we call 
>here =
>'green soap' and it work well. But to persuit spores of fungi =
>Heterosporium gracile copper preparates are need. Your succes, Donald, 
>may have two variants. Or in one of means you use there is copper, or 
>humidity of weather in your area is not with rains, only weathers =
>humidity. It is some different. Most dangerous is humidity with rains. 
>As all iris growers know the surface of bearded iris leaf is covered =
>like with wax. After rain only some drops remain on the leaf. In 
>theese =
>drops fungi spores begin to germinate  and if after rain is sunny =
>weather germination is very quick, as water drops work like lenses and 
>increase temperature in those spots. It is because first we have 
>single =
>spots on the leafs and only after some time fungi spots overgrow all =
>surface of leaf.=20
>It is good your idea to use at once fertilizing means. Of course it do 
>plant more strong, from other hand strong plant can better itself =
>struggle for healthy exsistence. I am quite satisfied hearing your =
>practice and will do better my experience too.
>For persons who have leaf spot as greater problem I can recomend to 
>use =
>dishwashing liquid or other mean for sticknes and copper sulphate / I 
>do =
>not remember well, but maybe formula is CuSO4. We call it "blue stone" 
>as it is of blue color/. The concentration is used of 1%. Used for =
>flowers it is not dangerous for humans. Now there are many fungicides, 
>which are not toxic and dangerous, but sometimes philosophy or =
>confidence do not allow to use it.
>Edmundas Kondratas
>Lithuania, Kaunas
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