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Re: HYB: hybridizer sib crosses (was speaking of pedigrees)
  • Subject: Re: HYB: hybridizer sib crosses (was speaking of pedigrees)
  • From: Bill Chaney <billchaney@ymail.com>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:08:20 -0800 (PST)


Thanks for sharing this list.  It is very interesting.  I can't help
but ask; How do you go about finding these crosses?  I am thinking about the
database, and can't imagine how you go about finding them.

 From: Paul Archer <pharcher@mindspring.com>
To: iris@hort.net 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: [iris]
HYB: hybridizer sib crosses (was speaking of pedigrees)
Linda, I've been
compiling what I'm affectiontely calls "The Sib List".  This made it easy for
me to answer your question.  It includes sib, reverse sibs and near sibs (from
sib crosses) from all hybridizers.  I'm still working on it so it is hardly
complete.  I can answer your question, but here it's in less detail that my

Bearded TB    
Hybridizers : Bruce, Nicodemus, Van Hook, Moller   
Cultivars : Blackmail, Crimson Lights, Hey Jude, Ozark Rebounder,
Piedmont Park, Sheila Van Hook,            
            Smoldering Fire,   
Voltaire's Cloak                    
Bearded     TB    
Hybridizers :
Grosvenor, Hager, Moos,  Hager        
Cultivars : Berowra, Cherished
Friendship, Weisse Duene, World Without End                    
Bearded     TB    
Hybridizers : Grosvenor, Chenoguz, Ghio, Painter       
Cultivars : Amy's Flower, Bright Mia, Dva Koliory, Idol,    Misiachna Nich,
Ocelot, Peter John,    Painter L99-1A    

Bearded     SDB    
Hybridizers :
Meek, Niswonger, Gavrilin        
Cultivars : Aftershave, Black Bandit,
Bordeaux Pearl, Cup Of Joy, Goluboglazaya Blondinka, Nasha Masha,
Sign Me Up                                                                   
Bearded     TB    
Hybridizers :
Spoon, Grumbine, Grosvenor, Kilimnik        
Cultivars : Lady Of Leoness, Reap
The Rewards, Shipmate First Class, Wodospad, Grumbine T18-2                   
Bearded     TB    
: Gibson, Black, McCord, Begeley    
Cultivars : Columbia The Gem, Freckled
Sunshine, King in Calico, Panama Hattie, Provocative Lady, 
In Calico,    Red Lightning, Rustic Dance                                
Bearded      IB    
Hybridizers : Keppel, Smith, M., Rogers    
Cutivars :
Citizens Band, Dark Reflection, Geisha, Point The Way, Prism, Sailor,
Beardless LA    
Hybridizers : Bertinot, Arny, C., Taylor, J.       
Cultivar : Billy, Cajundome, Fancy Time, John's Lucifer, Royal Empress       

THE HISTORICS                                                               
Historic Bearded MDB   
Hybridizers : A. Brown, Kavan, E. Roberts, Mahood        
Cultivars : Albino
Doll, Blue Elf, Canary Caper, Orchid Cherub                                   
Historic Bearded TB    
Hybridizers : Hipp,
Howe, Brett, Deforest        
cultivars : Amerda, Belle Page, Bountiful,
Infantry Blue, Rehobeth                                                       
Historic Bearded TB    
Hybridizers : Deforest, Muhlestein, Quadros,
Chandler, Braun        
Cultivars : Argus Peasant, Brown Ensemble, Brownland,
Jungle Goddess, Taffy Brown                                                   
Historic Bearded TB    
Hybridizers : Morgan, Tucker, 
Benson, Olson        
Cultivars : Beulah Land, Broker's Tip, Crown Derby,
Distant Peak, Flower Of Athens, Honor Guard, Louise,     
Attraction, Man Of War, Milisska, Pella                                       
Historic Bearded TB   
Hybridizers : C. James, Errey, Rutherford, Luckey        
Cultivars : Gay
Jane, Kawana, Party Frills, Purple Magnolia, Rockwood Luck                   
Historic Bearded
Hybridizers : Muhlestein, Ulrich, Heagney, DeForest        
Cultivars :
Fairy Blush, Lois Marie, Pink Carnival, Pink Formal, Pink Tower

Bearded SDB    
Hybridizers : Watkins, G. Stevens, Dyer, E. Roberts       
Cultivars : Citral, Crisp Lemon, Mary Mack, May Wine, Splash O' Green
Historic Bearded TB   
Hybridizers : O'Brien, Brown, O., Roe, Wagstaff        
Cultivars : Christmas
Carol, Glacier Sunset, Late Arrival, Lightning Ridge,    Karen Lynette       
Historic Bearded TB   
Hybridizers : Schirmer, Noyd, Reynolds, Schreiner, Rees        
Cultivars : 
Buddy, Inky Bluebeard    , Little Sambo, Minstrel Show, Tabu, Wilastron       
Historic Bearded OB-    
Hybridizers : Linse, Simon, Danielson, Kirk,
Cultivars : Nscap, S-129,    Blue Motife,    Darlene Waters, Dark
Amethyst, Distant Mesa, Heather Angel, 
            Letter From Home, Mary's
Bouquet, Melody Waters, Mode, Phlox Pink, Rose Cap, Stratosphere Angel,       
Trophy, Vio, With Love                                                       
Historic Bearded TB    
Hybridizers :
Bakke-Messer, Plough, I. Hope, Kelway, Burns, DeForest, Koster, Russell,
Cultivars : Blue Beau, Blue Admiral, Clear Lake, Earl
Marshall, Island Sky,    Light Frost, 
            Margaret Russell, Viking
Prince, Waumbek                                                               
Historic Bearded TB    
Hybridizers : Babson,
Witteman, Savage, Mitsch, Scott,A., Kleinsorge        
Cultivars : Blaze Away,
Carthage Brown, Cochise, Copper Harbor,    Hermit Thrush,    Inca Chief,
Manhattan,         Voodoo                                                   

The ultimate would be grom (Snow Flurry x Chivalry) and (Chivarly x Snow
Flurry) from numerous hybridizers                                           
Cultivars : Azul, Belton Beauty, Blue Clif, Blue Dew,Blue Sapphire,Blue
Veil,    Brave Banner,     Candy Babe      
            Cathy Sue, Cool
Crystal, Crystal, Enchanted Pearl, Garden Goddess,    Ice Capade, Leila Romer 
            Marion, Paul's Pride, Purple Twilight, Rising Star,   
Ruffled Skies, Sleigh Bells,    Smile Awhile,
            So Sweet,    Story
Lady, Sweet Content, Sylvia Ann Burns, Truly Exquisite, Vapor Trail  
-----Original Message-----
>From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>
Jan 12, 2012 6:14 PM
>To: iris@hort.net
>Subject: [iris] HYB: speaking of
>Re: some of the recent irises that have been very popular as
>including ROMANTIC EVENING.  To jog my memory on which RE
>I've bought over the years, I pulled up a list of all the
>that included RE and ran across something I don't remember
seeing before -
>the same cross made by 6 different hybridizers!  NIGHT GAME X
>EVENING.  Amazing - Rick Tasco, John Van Hook, Bruce Filardi,
>Grosvenor and Lionel Austell.
>And me ;-)
>Any other crosses like
>Linda Mann east TN USA zone 7
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