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Re: HYB: wide crosses

  • Subject: Re: HYB: wide crosses
  • From: pbrooks@whidbey.net
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:11:49 -0000


I can SO relate to the careful research, then using whatever pollen 
comes on whatever bloom seems a good mix when the time comes.  This 
was my first year of hybridizing; and while I only (mostly) bought 
irises that were confirmed fertile from my research, when the time 
came, I played it by eye.

And you're right about the island.  It's the most perfect gardening 
climate I've found -- and I've lived all over the country.  That's 
why I spent eight years working to come here to retire.  And true to 
its reputation for my favorite flower, it produced pollen beyond my 
wildest dreams.  Especially my favorites:  ELECTRIQUE, REINCARNATION, 
SAMURAI WARRIOR, and ENCHANTING just outdid themselves, all in their 
first year of bloom.

I've ordered a shameless number for next year's bloom (which I 
call '02 cvs, whoever asked) so I'll probably be swimming in it, if 
anyone would like me to send some to them.  I am so grateful to iris-
talk for all the great advice, and to iris register.  I'd still be 
mired in my first mistakes otherwise.

Patricia Brooks
Whidbey Island, WA, zone 8

--- In iris-talk@y..., Linda Mann <lmann@i...> wrote:
> Patricia Brooks Whidbey Island, WA, zone 8 said:
> <I was interested in your saying that most of your crosses were 
> So I'd have some to compare germination-wise.  I'm wondering how you
> measure "wide.">
> In my case, I'm trying to create some tough TBs as breeding stock 
> enough mixed genetic background so that if I live long enough, I can
> breed a diverse collection of colors and patterns that will thrive 
> here in my peculiarly difficult growing conditions.  What I try to 
do is
> track pedigrees before bloom season so I know more or less which
> cultivars are the result of line-breeding for a single color and 
> (usually these  turn out to be selfs or plics here), which ones have
> potential I. reichenbachii genes, which aphylla, which variegata, 
> pallida (all species that have various survival traits here).  
> cultivars don't do well at all here (barely live), but sometimes 
> TBs with some aphylla in the mix seem to handle summer drought by
> shutting down, dropping leaves if things get too bad), & which ones 
> high potential for recessive this 'n that (patterns & colors).  
> during bloom season, I try to avoid crosses with the line-bred
> same-color selfs, try to mix things up as much as possible, with the
> following constraints:
> At least one parent has to be tough enough (to the best of my 
> to thrive & bloom reliably here (more or less), I don't cross two
> historics (well, sure I do, but not to tell anybody...<g>),  I try 
> cross something with wide falls with narrow, modern 'weak' with old
> tough, good branching with no branching, consistent height (usually 
> historics meet this criterion) with variable height, or anything 
> IMMORTALITY.  After reading Walter Moores really interesting 
summary of
> 'progenitor' irises in rebloom pedigrees, I think I need to back up 
> generation and start crossing anything with I DO, which I haven't 
> to grow.
> <As sisters-in-growing-zone, >
> ROFLOL and other general hysteria <g> - you've got to be kidding 
> On your island, with the moderating effect on climate of all that 
> around you, you will never have the kind of mid-continental freeze
> damage we get here.  So you should be able to cross darn near 
> that's at all inclined to be fertile.  Not so here - after all that
> careful pedigree searching and thinking, I wind up using whatever 
> I have that looks possibly viable on whatever blooms.
> Somebody with more experience where irises actually grow can 
> give you a better idea of what to expect re: seed viability in the 
> of wide crosses you are making.
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8


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