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Re: Re: HYB: self incompatibility

  • Subject: Re: Re: HYB: self incompatibility
  • From: autmirislvr@aol.com
  • Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:03:39 -0400

<<I'm tempted to use the wood to build an ark. >>
Many of us are in the same ark!??I beg Mother Nature's forgiveness for whatever I did to tick her off!? An early spring followed by a hard freeze, early freeze & rain, or unending rain, all seem to have much the same results--limited progress with the breeding program.

By the time my son gets back from vacation, I won't even be able to find the garden!? When he would have mowed it rained!? 

Back to bee pods.? For years I simply threw them away because I was of the impression that they were basically selfs, and things I'd read about selfs didn't impress me.? They were reported to produce throw backs to earlier generations.? Something I didn't feel I needed.? 

The first year I was out here, my pod count was way down and I had lots of space!? Being a compulsive seed planter I kept the pods and planted the seed.? The bloom from one of those seed pods changed my mind.? Clearly something good happened there!? Then, I got the seedlings from 1620-06 x bee!? Now I stand in the garden and cheer on the bees!? They are clearly a smart bunch!? 

I've had a lot more bee pods since the neighbor moved in the hive of bees.? They aren't as obvious?as the first swarm that hit my garden, but they are still active.? She had two hive and lost one.? Based on known factors, I can't help but believe many of these truly are bee pods!? On the other hand, I saw the giant bumbees working some plants that later produced pods.? The little black pollen stealers that Linda mentions weren't as obvious this year as in the past.? I don't think they liked all the rain either!? 

So far, none of my lovely bee babies have rebloomed.?

Betty Wilkerson
Bridge In Time Iris
KY Zone 6

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Griffin Crump <jgcrump@cox.net>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility

It's raining again as I write this. It started at the beginning of bloom season and we've only had a few rain-free days since -- two days being the longest stretch. The bees weren't having any better luck than I in making crosses until the last few days of bloom -- then they went wild. I had to shoo them away as I worked the flowers. All in all, though, they seem to have good taste. I have so few successful crosses this year that I'm going to let the bee pods on important flowers mature and will probably plant them. It's also time to construct new beds for this year's seedlings, though I'm tempted to use the wood to build an ark. -- Griff?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mann" <lmann@lock-net.com>?
To: <iris@hort.net>?
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:59 PM?
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility?
> Interesting.?
> Because successful crosses here are hard to come by a lot of years, I've > saved and planted quite a few bee pods.?
> Some have been on cultivars that haven't cooperated by producing pollen, > so those are clearly not selfs.?
> Some have been on cultivars where I attempted crosses with no luck & > seedlings have looked suspiciously like they came from the added pollen. > The HELEN COLLINGWOOD X bee, with attempted ROMANTIC EVENING pollen on > nearby but earlier blooms, sure look like they are HC X RE. I assumed the > little pollen scavengers moved on to the next bloom, taking some pollen > with them. Carefully sealed in a little plastic container to keep it dry > and viable ;-)?
> Other bee babies have been different enough from known parent and > grandparents that I've assumed somebody else donated the pollen - one that > comes to mind is a group of seedlings from one of the cream (IMM X CSONG) > seedlings - a dark red, some pastel browns with form and "presence" not > particularly reminiscent of the parent. I guess they <could> be selfed, > but seems unlikely - I'd expect mostly white seedlings from a self of this > one or its sibs. ??
> Another batch of bee babies from the lavender self (IMM X CSONG) probably > are selfed, now that I think about it - they've all been white or pale > yellow, & other traits of stalk, form etc could easily be a 're-mix' of > grandparent genes.?
> Ridiculously robust and not a rebloomer among them.?
> Linda Mann?
> TN?
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