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Paltec and Shade

  • Subject: Paltec and Shade
  • From: "Cindy Rivera" <crivera15@comcast.net>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:31:13 -0600

Paltec likes half day shade here in New Mexico.

Cindy Rivera
Los Lunas, NM Zone 7

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "iris DIGEST" <iris-owner@hort.net>
To: <iris-digest@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #861

> iris DIGEST           Saturday, June 6 2009           Volume 01 : Number
> In this issue:
>         Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility
>         [iris] HIST: HYB: Paltec and Shade
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:09:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility
> Tsk, tsk, tsk,
> Please excuse me a moment while I step up on my soap-box.
> Am I the only one whose noticed? If the weather forecast isn't "clear and
breezy and 76*F" then the news anchorpersons shake their heads as if they've
just seen a story about starving children in Ethiopia- even when the
forecast is perfectly appropriate for the time of year.<whew>
> All that said, I sometimes pause to wonder.  If you were the weather
machine, wouldn't the collective force of all this positive/negative energy
be just plain irritating?
> <dusts off soap box.  Re-tapes soap box where cardboard has collapsed
under enormous weight.  Returns soap box to startled Wal-mart stocker.>
> Having said that, grumble-grumble-whine-complain... stupid rain... stupid
homework... stupid video game... only made 66 crosses and got 18 known pods.
(Compared to 500 crosses/126 total pods last year.)   Two clumps have very
promising bee pods.  One on an as yet unidentified orange historic big
enough to be at least 50 seeds, and two on a child of Huckleberry Fudge that
was a child of the drought, met the goals for the cross, and was reselected.
> At least there's a little dream fodder to mark the 09 season.
> Christian
> ________________________________
> From: Linda Smith <irisgrower@cableone.net>
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 9:30:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility
> Much different weather for me here in N. AZ also.
> Well, I brought back the cool weather and rain from Kansas.  I still
> had the air conditioner on. And we are expecting cool this week end. Some
> cloud cover nearly every day.
> I think I'm living in OR or WA. Some real micro burst that washed out all
> kinds of rock into the streets.
> I agree the bees have not been about as much here either.   I think
> Flagstaff had 11 days straight of rains.  We thought we were in the
>   I haven't even had time to work on photos, as I know the heat is just
> around the corner, so taking advantage of this nice break.  Normally, I
> down working in yard on major projects by June.
> Dark Vader has a seed pot on it as well as Huckleberry Fudge, a very great
> grower and multiplier here.  None of my doings, but what bees were out did
> something.  I'm going to try to do the seed thing if these are fertile.  I
> still have not been organized enough to really work on growing an iris
> seed yet. Certainly, I'm not to the pollening stage yet.
> Linda in CW AZ
> - -------Original Message-------
> From: autmirislvr@aol.com
> Date: 06/05/09 06:07:06
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility
> <<I'm tempted to use the wood to build an ark. >>
> Many of us are in the same ark!??I beg Mother Nature's forgiveness for
> whatever I did to tick her off!? An early spring followed by a hard
> early freeze & rain, or unending rain, all seem to have much the same
> results--limited progress with the breeding program.
> By the time my son gets back from vacation, I won't even be able to find
> garden!? When he would have mowed it rained!?
> Back to bee pods.? For years I simply threw them away because I was of the
> impression that they were basically selfs, and things I'd read about selfs
> didn't impress me.? They were reported to produce throw backs to earlier
> generations.? Something I didn't feel I needed.?
> The first year I was out here, my pod count was way down and I had lots of
> space!? Being a compulsive seed planter I kept the pods and planted the
> ? The bloom from one of those seed pods changed my mind.? Clearly
> good happened there!? Then, I got the seedlings from 1620-06 x bee!? Now I
> stand in the garden and cheer on the bees!? They are clearly a smart
> I've had a lot more bee pods since the neighbor moved in the hive of
> They aren't as obvious?as the first swarm that hit my garden, but they are
> still active.? She had two hive and lost one.? Based on known factors, I
> t help but believe many of these truly are bee pods!? On the other hand, I
> saw the giant bumbees working some plants that later produced pods.? The
> little black pollen stealers that Linda mentions weren't as obvious this
> year as in the past.? I don't think they liked all the rain either!?
> So far, none of my lovely bee babies have rebloomed.?
> Betty Wilkerson
> Bridge In Time Iris
> KY Zone 6
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Griffin Crump <jgcrump@cox.net>
> To: iris@hort.net
> Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 9:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility
> It's raining again as I write this. It started at the beginning of bloom
> season and we've only had a few rain-free days since -- two days being the
> longest stretch. The bees weren't having any better luck than I in making
> crosses until the last few days of bloom -- then they went wild. I had to
> shoo them away as I worked the flowers. All in all, though, they seem to
> have good taste. I have so few successful crosses this year that I'm going
> to let the bee pods on important flowers mature and will probably plant
> It's also time to construct new beds for this year's seedlings, though I'm
> tempted to use the wood to build an ark. -- Griff?
> ?
> - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mann" <lmann@lock-net.com>?
> To: <iris@hort.net>?
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:59 PM?
> Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: self incompatibility?
> ?
> > Interesting.?
> >?
> > Because successful crosses here are hard to come by a lot of years, I've
> saved and planted quite a few bee pods.?
> >?
> > Some have been on cultivars that haven't cooperated by producing pollen,
> so those are clearly not selfs.?
> >?
> > Some have been on cultivars where I attempted crosses with no luck & >
> seedlings have looked suspiciously like they came from the added pollen. >
> The HELEN COLLINGWOOD X bee, with attempted ROMANTIC EVENING pollen on >
> nearby but earlier blooms, sure look like they are HC X RE. I assumed the
> little pollen scavengers moved on to the next bloom, taking some pollen >
> with them. Carefully sealed in a little plastic container to keep it dry >
> and viable ;-)?
> >?
> > Other bee babies have been different enough from known parent and >
> grandparents that I've assumed somebody else donated the pollen - one that
> comes to mind is a group of seedlings from one of the cream (IMM X CSONG)
> seedlings - a dark red, some pastel browns with form and "presence" not >
> particularly reminiscent of the parent. I guess they <could> be selfed, >
> but seems unlikely - I'd expect mostly white seedlings from a self of this
> one or its sibs. ??
> >?
> > Another batch of bee babies from the lavender self (IMM X CSONG)
> > are selfed, now that I think about it - they've all been white or pale >
> yellow, & other traits of stalk, form etc could easily be a 're-mix' of >
> grandparent genes.?
> >?
> > Ridiculously robust and not a rebloomer among them.?
> >?
> > Linda Mann?
> > TN?
> >?
> ?
> ?
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> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:13:27 EDT
> From: ChatOWhitehall@aol.com
> Subject: [iris] HIST: HYB: Paltec and Shade
> Greetings.
> Can anyone offer me any insight into how much shade Paltec can take and
> still thrive and bloom?
> Thanks.
> Cordially,
> Anner Whitehead
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