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Re: HYB: traits passed on?

  • Subject: Re: HYB: traits passed on?
  • From: irischapman@aim.com
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:44:29 -0400

I'd just throw it away. There is nothing there that you couldn't get
 from another cross, but lots of bad traits, so why bother.  It is easy
to keep and use just because it is your cross, but unless there is a
special trait or genetics you can't get somewher else ther is no point.
  The size may be a recessive and it may be able to produce better
flowers with right cross, but you are carrying forward bad traits that
will carry forward into future generations. We need to eliminate these
type of genes from any future generations, i order to get a better
selection from each future generation.

Chuck Chapman

Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: mahlberg s <s_j_mahlberg@yahoo.com>
Subject: [iris] HYB: traits passed on?

I have been dabbling with irises for a few years now.
  I know, ideally, hybridizers should pick the best of the best to work
as with any plant or animal hybridizing.
What I am wondering is as follows.
I made a cross between Sapphire Hills and Violet Miracle just for fun.
I ended up with a rather small deep purple flower with a purple beard.
I am not surprised about getting a smaller flower, something worse than
what I
started with.
What I am wondering is, could this hybrid pass on the better
of either of it's parents to a future generation? Or will this cross
just further regress in future generations and just ruin anything
better I
outcross it to.
I'd guess this still has SH and VM genes, so it could potentially create
another nice sized flower down the line, especially if outcrossed to
better. I'm also thinking, maybe incorrectly, that if backcrossed to
(if it takes) it could potentially create something looking like either
it's parents again.
Is this right, or is the genetics 'watered down' into it's own 'line'
and my
results would be the same or worse than what I already ended up with?
Just wondering if my thoughts and 'semi'understanding of genetics is
right, or
if this plant is just a mulch pile scrapper. I don't want to waste 2 or
years of time to discover what others have already learned.

thanks, steve m.
zone 4b n e minnesota

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