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Re: HYB: Beginners:Pods & seeds
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: HYB: Beginners:Pods & seeds
  • From: Adam Cordes <adambo_iris@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:57:52 -0700 (PDT)

Heheh!  Thanks, Christian!  Yeah, I could grumble...

Thanks for your info, too.   I'll make sure not to get the medium too wet for
the vernalization period.  I currently use sphagnum/peat moss in a small
sandwich/snack baggie.

Adam~

--- On Mon, 3/19/12, christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: christian foster <flatnflashy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Beginners:Pods & seeds
To: "iris@hort.net" <iris@hort.net>
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:56 PM

Nope.  That won't be enough to keep you from grumbling.  I had a pollinated
bloom on Cut Crystal once that I popped off being careless.  Can't remember
what pollen I had on it now, but I had 3000+ seeds that summer and everytime
I
looked at the cross list and saw that CC's cross was lost I pouted.

I've done
some experimenting of my own, Adam, with the very young seeds.  I think the
seeds are full size and "viable" from the time the pod is about 10 days old.
The trick is to not get the very young seeds too wet.  Off the top of my head
I can't remember if the magic number was 4cc of water in the burrito, or 8
cc,
I lean toward 4.  Either way, it's really not a lot. Oh, yes, you can shell
really young seeds and burrito them. 




________________________________
From: Adam Cordes <adambo_iris@yahoo.com>
To: iris@hort.net
Sent: Monday,
March 19, 2012 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Beginners:Pods & seeds
Linda, and Betty, too...

I know it probably sounded rude, and I didn't mean
it that way.  :-}  I
thought that the pod, if accidentally snapped off the
stalk only a few days
after pollination, would have somehow sent all the
energy to one seed, rather
than have -- let's say a dozen -- of seeds that
only get enough nutrients from
the pod to mature half-way.  I have had a pod
that had several flat seeds
without a germ, and only one plump seed that was
viable.

Yep, I'm really glad for the input, though!  I checked out my lil'
soakers-of-seeds in the bucket, and that cross just looks like it's all mush.
Oh well.  I still have the parents, and I"m sure by the time bloom season
begins, I'll change my mind with what I want to cross Haunted Heart with
again
... hehehe!    and, that's why I have 2,168 other seeds to work with... that
should keep me busy enough not to worry about one stinkin' cross!

;-)
Thanks!
Adam~

--- On Sun, 3/18/12, Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com> wrote:
From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Beginners:Pods
& seeds
To: iris@hort.net
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2012, 9:00 AM

Uh oh, that
doesn't sound good, Adam.  They should have a hard core, even if
they are very
small, esp after soaking.  Pinhead size sounds like aborted
ovary.

On
3/17/2012 9:16 PM, Adam Cordes wrote:
> They were no bigger than a pinhead,
white
> to tan in color, and blew around in the wind like chaff.

If I get
time, I'll dig out the numbers, but best I can recall, there were a
dozen or
so seeds, good germination.  No fewer than seeds on a lot of 'normal'
pods
here in the iris vale of despair.

Wish I had taken a photo - best I can
remember the stalk was only an inch or
two.  But the pod was green, so it was
able to manufacture food for the
developing seeds, and no rot problems, which
I think was the key.  Window sill
only gets a little morning sun, but is
bright.  The most surprising thing to
me is that there was enough moisture in
a pod that young to keep developing
seeds happy.  My earlier attempts to
provide moisture to broken off pods
(potato etc) just resulted in rot, & I
really didn't expect to get anything
from such a young pod, so just left it to
its own resources.

> Linda, that's just unreal!  Was there any stalk to feed
that pod?  How many
> germinated from it?  I would assume just one would have.
Linda Mann east TN USA zone 7b, where spring has morphed into summer, about 2
months early.  & we have had light frost as late as May here! ridiculous
weather.
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