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Re: HYB: Rose scent

Good morning, Tom.

Thank you for your?concern. You?must never hesitate to write if you are inclined. I always acknowledge?people's email, even when I am very busy.? 

I'm here for bloom season, at least. I've been?working on some?Iris projects and articles, as always. I wrote?a review?of the?recent Farr book for the journal of the Southern Garden History Society, and I?investigated the story of the AIS Seal(s) for the AIS?webpage.?It is up there now, in Overview-History, if you are interested. ?I did not dumb it down, and I think it is a pretty good piece. Chris, our webmaster, who liked it,?asked me if I had some photos that might accompany the articles there, so I've been digging in my files for this and that, which started me down a?bumpy Peckham road. 

I've always been interested in Mrs. Peckham, and her son,?so I contacted the latter's widow?in hopes of getting a decent picture of Ethel for the AIS page. The only one I had was grainy and made her look like a madwoman, and the one that was published in a Section?mag recently was actually Mary Williamson. I figured the family might have a studio shot conveniently to hand, which we could add to the AIS files. Well, no such luck,?but I've?got her wedding portrait, if you please, wearing a queen's ransom in lace,?and some other?family photos, and I'm trying to extract enough data from her, without prying, to write something, anything, to?"pick up the pieces which remain."?

 Ethel went to town with that fragrance classification---"merely tentative", she insists---in the 1939CL--see pp,12ff. She says she has "essayed a?simplified classification,?using whatever material and notes have been available."?She runs through the usual discussion of how different folks smell things differently and some not at all and finishes up, "It is hoped that this chart in the future will be of aid to breeders so that they may get a?proper clue as to how to classify their Iris fragrances."?

And there follow some remarkable?diagrams and lists including the material I mentioned earlier, which no doubt incorporates all sorts of source material from all sorts of sources. It is a marvelous artifact, that list.?Cracks me up. Those folks did not hesitate to try to firm up squishy?concepts.?The dogwood?is the one?which?bewilders me. I'm a Virginian, bathed in the?pollen of doggies in perfection?since birth?and I have never?smelled anything off them,?nada.?Dogwood in this instance is?almost certainly Cornus florida, for our overseas?members.

If anyone has been considering ordering George Edmonds' book on Bertrand Farr, Dream Gardener, and would like to read my review of it, which is long and quite detailed, please feel free to?contact me directly. The piece is not available for reprint. 

I've got 'Victorine' blooming here today in the rain, the first time I've ever seen it. First year plant.?Tiny thing! Is it always more or less MTB?? 


Anner Whitehead
Richmond VA USA Z7

-----Original Message-----
From: thomas silvers <tesilvers@yahoo.com>
To: iris-talk <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 8:13 am
Subject: [iris] RE: HYB: Rose scent

Hi Anner, it's good to hear from you again [I had been a little worried and was 
on the verge of e-mailing you :0)]. You wrote:
"that among the fragrances cataloged in the AIS 1939 Check List is 'rose.' So, 
for that matter, are waterlily, may-apple, celery, and the scent of the flowers 
of poplar and dogwood"

I'm not familiar with waterlily, may-apple, poplar and dogwood scents, but I can 
vouch for the celery scent. That's exactly the thought that came to mind when I 
smelled the scent of my two newly registered diploid MTB rebloomers (CRICKET 
SONG and EASY SMILE). It's not exactly the kind of scent one's hoping for in a 
flower, but I guess it's not unpleasant.

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