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Re: HYB/REB: Black rebloomers

Hi Chad,
Currently Holy Night, Ravenwood and Winesap are the darkest reliable
rebloomers.  Ravenwood is an older formed iris, Holy Night is my favorite
of the three (just my opinion)
We are introducing one in 1999 (English Knight) that is much
darker than Holy Night and is a rebloomer.  Blackout has never rebloomed
for us.  I have never had a good cross come out of a red black and a purple
black, it also seems to be very hard to get these crosses to set pods.  We
have a black SA seedling on our website if you want to take a look 
http://www.suttoniris.com/past.html   it's in the future catagory under
dark SA and is not the blue color that shows up but a much darker purple.. 
Oh by the way, we have registered one called BYE BYE BLACKBIRD, it's darker
then Hello Darkness but is a poor grower and only reblooms every other
year. :((     We are working on it hard though, I have several pods set on
Miss Porterville X Hello Darkness, hopefully we will see some nice stuff
out of this.  (Miss Porterville bloomed for 10 months last year)  I know
this probably wasn't a lot of help but I thought I'd put my two cents worth

Mike Sutton
Porterville, CA USDA zone 8/9
Where we still have TB bloom and high temperatures that are 30 to 40
degrees below average.
visit our web site at http://www.suttoniris.com
> From: Chad Schroter <Chad.Schroter@qntm.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <iris-l@rt66.com>
> Subject: HYB/REB: Black rebloomers
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 10:28 AM
> 	This year I searched all my catalogs for Black or near Black
> rebloomers, BLACKOUT is the only really black Iris I have ever seen said
> rebloom, but having grown it I know better. I do grow WINESAP and can
> recommend it as a strong rebloomer but it is really a dark wine (near
> from the "red" side). One catalog lists Monty's MIDNITE CALLER (I hope I
> have remembered this name right) but says it is scarce and is very
> for an '89 ( I assume it is not a good grower?)  
> 	Would anyone care to suggest any Iris which are Black or Near Black
> coming from the blue-violet side which rebloom or have rebloom in their
> ancestry ?
> 	A Hybridizing question: In working towards "black" one crosses dark
> colors working towards greater intensity of pigment. The genes
> the amount of color expressed and/or layered etc. are or are not linked
> particular colors ? I ask because I would cross a very dark red rebloomer
> (ie. WINESAP) with a strong grower like HELLO DARKNESS (dark from the
> side) with the hopes that for whichever color I got the genes for rebloom
> and depth of coloration could be passed on as well. 
> Chad Schroter 	
> Los Gatos California , Zone determined by El Nino to be 7 or 8 instead of
> at least this week.

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