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Re: Iris and daylily web sites and lists

There's nothing about irises in what follows, so feel free to skip to the next
message if so inclined. I'm posting publicly just this once more in response to
Amy on the open "versus" closed list issue because I think the topic of
specialist societies, listservers, and their interaction is going to be of
vital interest to many of us in the next twenty years.

Any said,

 >> You need a blend of newbies and experts.  With two lists, one "closed"
 >> to AHS members, which constitute a fraction of American daylily
 >> growers, and one "open," where do you think you'll find the experts?

Experts at what?  Growing or hybridizing?

Anyone interested in hybridizing daylilies, except at the *most* casual level,
and who wants access to the experts in the field, should just join the American
Hemerocallis Society, period. Likewise anyone whose overwhelming interest in
gardening is daylilies.  There is no better source; there's no reason to set up
a parallel universe, and the "admission price" of $18 is ridiculously cheap for
what you get: an excellent quarterly national journal with lots of color photos
of cultivars, the regional newsletter, and access to conventions, conferences,
and postal and email round robins in which priceless expertise is being freely
shared.  I don't really think you can compare a fifty-year-old specialist
horticultural society using the Internet to expand communications opportunities
for its members to Microsoft or AOL.

However, people interested in daylilies as garden plants among other garden
plants, or in collecting and evaluating them on a small scale without
necessarily being focused on the newest cultivars, or in hybridizing without
any thought of eventual introduction or even much in the way of goals -- AHS
members included -- would probably be better served by a different forum than
the AHS e-robin anyway.

There are a good many AHS members on the e-robin now who'd probably also
subscribe to an open daylily list and be valuable sources of expertise.  There
are commercial growers who want to reach beyond the obsessed cognoscenti to the
mass market; some of them would probably partipate.  There are active members
of local daylily clubs who are not and never will be members of the national
society, but are online.  What's missing is someone with a burning desire to
set up and get a listserver going.  Someone who doesn't necessarily want to
join the AHS but is very interested in daylilies and concerned about the needs
of those other non-AHS daylily growers or might-be-growers out there. Someone
whose belief system abhors private use of the Internet, even by nonprofit

 Nell Lancaster, Lexington, VA   75500.2521@compuserve.com

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