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Re:: Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!
  • Subject: Re:: Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!
  • From: Gesine Lohr <f2945df91@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:20:28 -0700

Hi all,

1) How to customize how you see/get iris-talk --

John Jones runs iris-talk, I'm cc-ing him -- (thanks for running it, John!)

OK, googling around, I see

I've pasted the info from there, below (between the 2 lines of stars)

So, that's how you sign up, for either
--getting all posts sent individually to your mailbox,
--getting all posts sent in digest form,
--or being able to post, needing to read the group at its site/archives

To read iris-talk's archived messages, it's easy,
--go to
--click on
mailing lists
--then click on

which puts you at the archive.

Then, you click on the month, e.g. October 2014 --
you'll see the messages, VERY CLEAR TO SEE! sorted by THREAD --
*and*, you can search the archived messages!

You can, as well as seeing the messages sorted by thread, see them
sorted by date, or by author -- which can be very useful!

2)  About trimming off most of the "message history tails" of things,
when you post,
*especially* if you are replying to a digest --

Someone said they needed to see the prior message, to respond -- OK,
why not  leave just a BIT of the immediately-previous message,
attached to your post?  That's pretty common "netiquette" for internet
lists --

When people leave the entire thread hanging, especially when they're
responding to a digest, it's REALLY long!  Those of us with
not-so-fast internet connections, not-so-great computers, and those of
us wearing glasses, often find this difficult to read.  You have to
scroll down, *repeatedly*, through the same swamp of all the previous

So, I hope you all will consider trimming a lot more!

Yep, I could go to archives and read the threads there -- which I do
when a particular topic is something I'm really interested in --

Google searches are our friend!



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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:17:19 -0400
From: Phloid <4390a9e81@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: Re: [iris] Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!

I am not-digest so supposedly all posts are sent to my mailbox
individually. However, sometimes the only way I get to see a post is
when it is untrimmed from someone's reply to it. The parent version is
not getting sent to my mailbox. Happening to anyone else? Any ideas how
to resolve? Untrimmed histories helps me when that happens but I'd
prefer to see the original of course.

On 10/3/2014 2:43 PM, Gesine Lohr wrote:
> people are forgetting to TRIM off the message histories!
> So please remember to trim!  thanks,
> Gesine

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