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Re: : Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!
  • Subject: Re: : Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!
  • From: Phloid <4390a9e81@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:31:41 -0400

hmmm .... Now I understand BOD / Gesine better.
I can just ignore her posts. But her busy-bodiness wasn't friendly enough for some I guess. This a post from a person who is one of the top three posters. Overreacting but everything was fine before. Religious trimming takes a LOT of time. It interrupts posting flow. (A technical downside of the archaic medium.) If it bothers someone that much they simply need to go read the the website version. As in Gesine needs to do that, not expect everyone else to change their behavior for her convenience. Now why am I thinking at the moment you are going .... DUH .... just figuring that out? Gesine craps up another fishbowl. :(

On 10/6/2014 12:33 PM, Betty Wilkerson wrote:
Hi John, Gesine and all!,

I realize I am one of the main offenders on this
issue.  Since I have neither the time or the patience to do all of this new
learning, hunting, and memory, etc., I will refrain from posting on "iris
talk."  Just not worth the effort.  Anyone that wants to correspond can reach
me "off list."

Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
-----Original Message-----
From: Gesine Lohr <f2945df91@rewrite.hort.net>
Iris Hort <iris@hort.net>; Gesine Lohr <gesine.lohr@gmail.com>; Phloid
<4390a9e81@rewrite.hort.net>; John Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
Sent: Sun,
Oct 5, 2014 2:26 pm
Subject: Re:: [iris] Please TRIM the message histories,
especially when digest!!

Hi all,

1) How to customize how you see/get
iris-talk --

John Jones runs iris-talk, I'm cc-ing him -- (thanks for running
it, John!)

OK, googling around, I see
I've pasted the info from
there, below (between the 2 lines of stars)

So, that's how you sign up, for
--getting all posts sent individually to your mailbox,
--getting all
posts sent in digest form,
--or being able to post, needing to read the group
at its site/archives

To read iris-talk's archived messages, it's easy,
--click on
mailing lists
--then click on
which puts you at the archive.

Then, you click on the month, e.g. October
2014 --
you'll see the messages, VERY CLEAR TO SEE! sorted by THREAD --
you can search the archived messages!

You can, as well as seeing the messages
sorted by thread, see them
sorted by date, or by author -- which can be very

2)  About trimming off most of the "message history tails" of things,
when you post,
*especially* if you are replying to a digest --

Someone said
they needed to see the prior message, to respond -- OK,
why not  leave just a
BIT of the immediately-previous message,
attached to your post?  That's pretty
common "netiquette" for internet
lists --

When people leave the entire thread
hanging, especially when they're
responding to a digest, it's REALLY long!
Those of us with
not-so-fast internet connections, not-so-great computers, and
those of
us wearing glasses, often find this difficult to read.  You have to
scroll down, *repeatedly*, through the same swamp of all the previous
So, I hope you all will consider trimming a lot more!

Yep, I could go to
archives and read the threads there -- which I do
when a particular topic is
something I'm really interested in --

Google searches are our friend!


Information on how to
join the iris-talk list

This is the largest on-line iris discussion group and
is open to
anyone wishing to discuss just about anything relating to any type
iris. There are hundreds of subscribers worldwide, although most are
the USA. Many are members of the AIS but non-members are welcome
encouraged to join as well.
The list is hosted by the website: www.hort.net
You must be a member of the list to post messages. The e-mail address

This is an internet mailing list devoted to discussion on
irises. Both experienced irisarians and beginners are welcome. If you
grow, breed, or study irises, want to learn how, or just want to join
conversation, you are invited to subscribe.

Subscription Instructions: To
subscribe to this list follow the simple
steps below:

STEP 1 From your email
program, create a new blank message.

STEP 2  In the "To:" line, type the
following exactly as it appears below:

STEP 3 In the BODY
of the e-mail message choose and type only one of
the following three choices
exactly as it appears below:
subscribe iris
subscribe iris-digest
subscribe iris-allow

Depending on what kind of service you want the choices
are explained below:

Subscribe iris will allow you to post messages to
iris@hort.net and
receive individual messages posted there.

iris-digest will allow you to post messages to iris@hort.net
and receive a
daily digest of all messages posted.

Subscribe iris-allow will allow you to
post messages to iris@hort.net
but not receive individual messages posted
there. (You can read the
messages by accessing the archives with your browser
at the website
www.hort.net ). If you have multiple email addresses (or
you can subscribe all of them to allow you to post from anywhere.
STEP 4  Send the message (the subject line does not matter)

Soon after this,
you should receive an automatically generated welcome
e-mail message to the
discussion group. Please read the contents of
that message. Please save the
message for future reference so that you
may manage your subscription.

are now ready to post messages to the discussion group. No matter
how you
subscribed, the e-mail address to send posts to the list is:
John Jones at e-mail address: jijones@usjoneses.com is the LIST OWNER,
a human
being who is your point of contact for questions or problems.

Enjoy the list!
Date: Fri, 03 Oct
2014 23:17:19 -0400
From: Phloid <4390a9e81@rewrite.hort.net>
Subject: Re:
[iris] Please TRIM the message histories, especially when digest!!

I am
not-digest so supposedly all posts are sent to my mailbox
However, sometimes the only way I get to see a post is
when it is untrimmed
from someone's reply to it. The parent version is
not getting sent to my
mailbox. Happening to anyone else? Any ideas how
to resolve? Untrimmed
histories helps me when that happens but I'd
prefer to see the original of

On 10/3/2014 2:43 PM, Gesine Lohr wrote:
people are forgetting to TRIM off the message histories!
So please
remember to trim!  thanks,
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