Re: JI Symposium - Stop burning the red-heads.
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- Subject: Re: JI Symposium - Stop burning the red-heads.
- From: IKern@aol.com
- Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 23:32:50 -0600 (MDT)
In a message dated 97-10-18 01:41:22 EDT, you write:
BUT... to the matter at hand. Judging. The system
>lacked intellectual structure and that there were few standards by which
>to judge a flower.
I disagree that the judging system lacks intellectual structure. If you
the judges manual you can see that there is very definate structure to
judging an iris.... but I think what John Coble was trying to express is
by it's very nature, this can't be an exact science... but somewhere between
science and art. On the show bench, it's cut and dried.. Not rocket
science at all. You have a standard against which to judge the plant.
Remember, you're not judging the plant for appeal, but how it matches the
standard set by the plant itself. In SEEDLINGS is where the question of the
plant's worthiness is judged
The equivalent of a petal tear on the show bench.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE, we are growing flowers here! Pleasing to the eye,
hand and nose. Are we doing this JUST to win a couple of ribbons? Or for
the simple pleasure of walking to, gazing upon and working in our flowers?
For me, watching my dormant gardens, soon to be burried in snow, is the omen
of new growth to come. The first green peeking out from the melting white.
a regular and pleasing bloom, branching and clean, upright foliage.
> If that flower is
>perfect in every way except that it does not have the colour or colour
>pattern described in the registration, why would it be rejected?
The reason is simple... because in order to HAVE a standard for a plant,
there is a registration process. So, if a plant is registered as white with
purple speckling... and it throws a sport that is pure purple... well, then
that's a sport and not the plant as registered! To accept any less would be
chaos and would leave the registration process meaningless. I wonder if the
sport can be considered in the seedling class. But on the show bench, we
are judging against a standard - and a sport would not fit the standard.
>is with the judging or the registration not the flower itself. Let us
>accept the facts and change the judging and registration description to
>be more accurate and scientific.
And how would we know which plants are biologically identical (but sports)
and which are total frauds?
I guess, just blind faith and mother nature.
So... I hope I explained and I hope I made sense. I know what I'm trying to
say, anyway - but whether that comes across is another thing entirely. What
I'm REALLY doing is avoiding ironing sheets for the speaker who will be
staying here tomorrow!
Kathy, happy ironing.
Iris in Milw. Snow here soon.